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  •  what does that even mean? (4+ / 0-)
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    "Underestimate Rick Perry at own peril "

    Don't under or overestimate him. Gauge him for who he realy is and where he really stands.

    He is still the frontrunner and as I noted he remains formidable. But he don't got the Big Mo right now that he was expecting to. In fact, he is very much on the defensive, even on the right.

    Hey, even Sister Sarah is picking on him.

    "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

    by Greg Dworkin on Tue Sep 13, 2011 at 02:20:39 PM PDT

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    •  Libby's right. She's a fellow Texan. (3+ / 0-)
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      And has been blogging on Perry for years.

      I work with B2B PAC, and all views and opinions in this account are my own.

      by slinkerwink on Tue Sep 13, 2011 at 02:26:49 PM PDT

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      •  nonetheless (1+ / 0-)
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        the question stands. Who is actually underestimating him and in what way? He's the frontrunner, after all. and see my reply to you above.

        This may well be a win win for dems since a Romney win comes with less enthusiasm and a Perry win can only happen after a bruising fight over SS that hurts him in the general.

        "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

        by Greg Dworkin on Tue Sep 13, 2011 at 02:33:42 PM PDT

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        •  As another Texan, after 10 years of Perry, (1+ / 0-)
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          I second what Libby said.

          Inscrupulous, conniving, heart (and soul) less, power=-hungry.  With the means and motivation to win this thing.

          With respect, many non-Texans who wouldn't vote for him, and many who might, don't fully appreciate his nastiness.  Of those who might vote for him, or at least consider him, they may be able to be persuaded.  The result would be WAY worse than W.  By comparison, W had scruples.

          Torture is Wrong! We live near W so you don't have to. Send love.

          by tom 47 on Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 07:03:00 AM PDT

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          •  I appreciate that (0+ / 0-)

            as a non Texan that's my view of him. So in what way is he being misunderestimated?

            "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

            by Greg Dworkin on Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 08:00:19 AM PDT

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    •  Besides... (0+ / 0-)

      I think we flatter ourselves to think our pinko, socialist, homo, commie estimations--either over or under--of any of these candidates make a hill of beans of difference to the nutjobs that will be voting in GOP primaries. They listen to Rush, Beck, Fox News, etc. Not DKos.

      Which is not to say it's not a good time to assemble a war chest of opposition info and talk to general election voters about how crazy and unacceptable they all are.

      "A small group of thoughtful people could change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has."--Margaret Mead 

      by Scott Wooledge on Tue Sep 13, 2011 at 04:25:47 PM PDT

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      •  ;-) (2+ / 0-)
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        still, we are perfectly capable of analyzing the other side's political position.  For example:

        Interestingly, Rick Perry took it on the chin last night, and more from the right on vaccine policy and immigration than the left on Social Security (where he is certainly vulnerable.) Still, debates won’t decide who will be the nominee, but as many analysts have noted, whether Perry emerges despite his policy flaws or whether Romney emerges despite tea party un-enthusiasm, the eventual nominee will be outside the mainstream of the American voter, running against Social Security and cheering on the execution of innocent people or those who die without health care. I don’t expect that to change; the tea party is immune to reality.

        My sense at this point is that Romney will be the stronger candidate but Perry is still ahead. But forget a coronation; Perry’s tough days lie ahead, not behind.

        http://www.politico.com/...

        "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

        by Greg Dworkin on Tue Sep 13, 2011 at 04:44:35 PM PDT

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