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  •  NO (5+ / 0-)

    Do NOT say that until she's actually shown that she can do more than give great interviews and be an administrator.  She might be terrific on paper but a crappy campaigner, and frankly, Brown is too damn affable and, yes, popular, for anyone who doesn't have a lot more willingness to get out and do more than rub shoulders with professional activists than Warren has demonstrated so far.

    •  Come back for some more.... (3+ / 0-)
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      Can we wait a month or so before the bashing begins. Your being quite unfair to her. What the hell is she supposed to do while forming an exploratory campaign. She was finding her support. That's exactly what you do when exploring.

      19, Chairman DKE Gay Caucus, male, Dem, (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09) Tammy Baldwin and Elizabeth Warren for Senate!

      by ndrwmls10 on Tue Sep 13, 2011 at 01:37:41 PM PDT

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      •  Please calm down (1+ / 0-)
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        Sharoney

        I am not bashing anyone.  I am simply pointing that Warren has a lot of work to do to overcome the perception that she's more in tune with professionals than ordinary citizens.  For some reason Brown has that touch (God knows why, since he lives in a half million dollar house and bought that goddamn truck to haul his kid's horse around) and Warren doesn't.

        I would love to support her.  Really.  I'd just like a reason beyond "she's great, you'll love her!" before I decide that she'll get my support next fall, let alone in 2016.

        •  I'm sorry, but where (0+ / 0-)

          is this perception coming from? "Ordinary" people don't pay attention to the down in the weeds type of stuff. So this is coming from the other camps. It's the only truthful explanation. You know it's okay to be on another team. Please be truthful about it though.

          19, Chairman DKE Gay Caucus, male, Dem, (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09) Tammy Baldwin and Elizabeth Warren for Senate!

          by ndrwmls10 on Tue Sep 13, 2011 at 02:22:02 PM PDT

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          •  Please look for a message from me (1+ / 0-)
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            Sharoney

            All I'm going to say publicly is that you are very, very wrong if you think I'm a political operative trying to undermine Warren's campaign.  And I am about as ordinary a person as you will find.

            •  Swell (1+ / 0-)
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              revsue

              We support Democrats here, in case you weren't sure.

              If you haven't decided to support Warren yet, that's fine for you.

              I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that most people here have made up their minds, so pooh-poohing Warren, I suspect, won't get you very far.

              Just sayin'

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              Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us.
              ~ Jerry Garcia

              by DeadHead on Tue Sep 13, 2011 at 06:08:15 PM PDT

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              •  I apologize for my snarky tone (0+ / 0-)

                We just want Warren in that seat. Brown winning it really sucked.

                She'd make a great senator and we need to do what we can to make it happen.

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                Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us.
                ~ Jerry Garcia

                by DeadHead on Tue Sep 13, 2011 at 06:38:56 PM PDT

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              •  I haven't decided to support anyone yet (1+ / 0-)
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                Sharoney

                But seriously?  I tried to access Warren's web site to compare her positions to those of Massie, Setti Warren, and Alan Khazei.  I was greatly dismayed to see that I couldn't access anything unless I either donated money (which I don't have - I make less than $30,000 a year and I am not giving money to anyone unless I know what they believe) or signed up for her mailing list.  I hope that changes tomorrow when she officially announced, but compared to the web sites for the other three candidates, it was pretty sad.

                Can someone point me to a web site that does have something about her positions?  Her family?  Anything deeper than her Wikipedia page?  Like I keep saying, I would love to support a good strong candidate, but so far all I've seen is lot of "you'll love her!  give her money!  vote for Warren!" and nothing about her positions on anything but consumer protection.  I want to do proper due diligence on ALL the announced candidates before I decide.

                Thank you.

        •  Um, I'm a 'professional' (0+ / 0-)

          ...if by 'professional' one means I sit at a computer all day instead of an assembly line. I'm earning significantly less than I was 2 years ago and am quite receptive to Prof. Warren's message. I am also sick and damn tired of being marginalized in discussions about whose support matters because I'm apparently not "ordinary citizen"-y enough.

          38% of Massachusetts residents 25+ have a college degree. That's a significant portion of the population (national average is 27.5%). I suspect the percent of the voting population is even higher.

          •  By "professional" I meant "professional politician (0+ / 0-)

            I thought that was clear from my earlier posts, and I'm sorry for the misunderstanding and for causing offense.  I meant none.

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