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  •  Your description perhaps doesn't make it clear (2+ / 0-)
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    Seneca Doane, EdSF

    That if a comment is deemed to be acceptable, those who would be punished would be the ones who flagged it as inappropriate, sending it to adjudication, not those who voted against it in the "trial".

    It also minimizes the proportionality of punish.  As I understand, kos leans towards bad commenting as being punishable by a suspension of commenting privileges and bad flagging punishable by taking away flagging privileges.  

    •  I will never flag any thing under these rules... (2+ / 0-)
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      Sychotic1, Seneca Doane

      just not worth it.

      One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." -- Plato

      by Jane Lew on Wed Sep 21, 2011 at 04:26:07 AM PDT

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      •  It does seem like an obvious personal solution (3+ / 0-)
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        Clem Yeobright, Jane Lew, CaliSista

        to the problem, doesn't it?  In lots of neighborhoods, people don't call the cops for similar reasons: no good comes of it and it can blow up in one's face.

        In my avatar, the blue bars show how many want Reps who COMPROMISE; the aqua bars show who wants Reps who STAND FAST no matter what. (Left=Overall; Center=Democrats; Right=Republicans.) And there's the problem!

        by Seneca Doane on Wed Sep 21, 2011 at 07:53:59 AM PDT

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        •  Some rules are bad rules, and I think this is one. (2+ / 0-)
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          CaliSista, Seneca Doane

          To put the whistle blower in the same dock as a potential violator is just not right.

          This rule is designed to decrease the number of complaints.
          That is why it is set up the way it is. When people do not flag,  it is a deliberate function of the rule.

          If people do not report, change the rule.

          One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." -- Plato

          by Jane Lew on Wed Sep 21, 2011 at 11:51:40 AM PDT

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          •  I T-h-i-n-k I Like the Rule (1+ / 0-)
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            Seneca Doane

            Censoring another member's speech is a pretty extreme step, I'd like to see that it isn't done flippantly or for simple disagreement on policy or tone as is very commonly done presently.  People who routinely do so should lose the ability to continue doing so.  But of course it's all down to how it's implemented.

            Advisors for President-Elect Barack Obama feared the new administration would face a coup if it prosecuted Bush-era war crimes, according to a new report out this morning.

            by Kurt Sperry on Wed Sep 21, 2011 at 12:23:55 PM PDT

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            •  "Good-faith exceptions" (3+ / 0-)
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              Jane Lew, ricklewsive, Clem Yeobright

              That's most of what's missing.  A good faith challenge that fails should mean no punishment.  If someone keeps on challenging the same things and failing, then the presumption becomes that they lack good faith -- or else they'd be adapting.

              In my avatar, the blue bars show how many want Reps who COMPROMISE; the aqua bars show who wants Reps who STAND FAST no matter what. (Left=Overall; Center=Democrats; Right=Republicans.) And there's the problem!

              by Seneca Doane on Wed Sep 21, 2011 at 03:16:43 PM PDT

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