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  •  Very odd that they think that, if true (1+ / 0-)
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    Zack from the SFV

    You have to be a millionaire several times over to be able to comfortably pay cash for real medical care in America.

    I know some journalists fit that description, but most don't.

    Ok, so I read the polls.

    by andgarden on Mon Sep 19, 2011 at 09:37:03 AM PDT

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    •  Journalists who get exposure fit that description (2+ / 0-)
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      The people who get on TV and are most prominent online and in print are well-off enough that they don't expect to need those government programs.  They'll qualify for their fair share of benefits, but don't think they'll need them.

      Some of them are certainly wrong, and will find they need the help after all.

      But a lot of them probably will retire with full health benefits as part of the retirement package, in addition to nice retirement pay and whatnot.  They don't necessarily pay out-of-pocket per se.

      "Most" journalists, you are correct, aren't affluent.  But most journalists are not driving the debate.  The elite journalists drive media coverage of everything.

      It makes perfect sense that the people who aren't horrified by the Ryan plan and other similar social Darwinistic ideas are people who don't think they'll need the help.  If you think you might really need that help, you don't want anyone to touch it.  And that's most people.  But you wouldn't know that from media coverage.

      43, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and a boy, Democrat, VA-10

      by DCCyclone on Mon Sep 19, 2011 at 10:16:18 AM PDT

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      •  they're also operating in a DC bubble (2+ / 0-)
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        which is nearly entirely disconnected from the reality most Americans live.

        I changed by not changing at all, small town predicts my fate, perhaps that's what no one wants to see. -6.38, -4.15

        by James Allen on Mon Sep 19, 2011 at 10:38:27 AM PDT

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        •  For a long time, I've thought the best thing (0+ / 0-)

          Obama could do to draw attention to the gravity of the situation is to invite reporters and other media types to come with on a tour of distressed areas. Let them walk through downtown Detroit and then act as if everything is peachy.

          •  I don't think that's helpful (3+ / 0-)
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            jncca, James Allen, askew

            Reporters won't respond favorably to that.  They think what they think and cynically reject whatever elected officials say.

            It's part of being in their bubble that they're uninterested in what's going on outside their bubble.

            43, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and a boy, Democrat, VA-10

            by DCCyclone on Mon Sep 19, 2011 at 11:24:09 AM PDT

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    •  Well, that's probably true (0+ / 0-)

      if you are paying out of pocket for everything. I don't think anyone expects everyone to do that. Most of the people that talk about HSA/MSA-stye plans say that people will need catastrophic coverage and that the accounts are for regular check ups and other smaller things. Of course, is that there will always be some people who can't afford this, for whatever reason. We need to make a decision about how to approach it. The problem for us is that we are consistently fighting two different battles between those who don't want to do it at all and those who want to do it in a very different way from us, and this makes the actual politics very, very difficult.

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