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  •  It didn't help that Solyndra's design... (12+ / 0-)

    ...was equivalent to Beta videocassettes, in a way. The modules may have been unique and possibly sujperior, but they were made of more expensive materials and required more of a free-standing mount to take advantage of reflected light from behind. They might be useful, say, as solar power canopies over a parking lot or in front of the southern exposure of buildings. Flat panels are equivalent to VHS: more people are buying them, and they work in more places.

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    by JeffW on Mon Sep 19, 2011 at 08:42:14 AM PDT

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      While the 'beta' analogy is interesting (remember that, according to most, Beta was the best technology), there are things to be said for Solyndra's design beyond this.  

      While I can't say that I was / am a big believer in their approach, much of it had appeal.

      * Design enables less sturdy connections to roof as they won't catch the wind.

      * Potential for lighter systems means less structural support required -- potentially opening up additional roof space / elsewhere for solar installations.

      * Unlike most PV panels which require multiple people, the solyndra systems can be moved around safely by the average person.

      Etc ...

      The one time that I 'looked' at Solyndra's approach, I was intrigued -- not necessarily convinced but definitely interested.

      And, well, now they have been blown out of the water due to PRC investments in solar driving down silicon and driving down overall installation costs, their approach clearly is less appealing.

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      by A Siegel on Mon Sep 19, 2011 at 09:05:22 AM PDT

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      •  Of course, there's always bad management... (6+ / 0-)

        ...and when you connect that with new technology, that can be a disaster. Remember Preston Tucker? That was a nice car, too...

        Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

        by JeffW on Mon Sep 19, 2011 at 09:08:20 AM PDT

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      •  I know nothing at all about solar panels, (3+ / 0-)
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        but  I do know about other products that have flooded our markets from China, and the quality is not up to par. Why do I think the Chinese solar panels are simply more of the same.
        I am interested to find out what role the U.S. Chamber of Commerce played in allowing China to bring their solar panels to the USA to compete with American made ones.
        My husband sells packaging, custom packaging. It is used to package various things, among them electronic equipment. His sales have decreased significantly, because the same folks, (China) who supplies them with the electronic equipment, now has been able to produce packaging as well , again, at a cheaper price. It is not the same quality as the packaging made here, but, hell, it is just packaging.
        The way I see it products made in China, are temporary, causing them to be replaced more often, so we can buy more produts made in China. Is that really saving the consumer money? While it works for stores like Wal-Mart, who depends on a constant flow of customers buying low priced products, only to come back in a year to replace them, it doesn't and shouldn't work for the rest of America. It especially should not work with solar panels, where not only it is a large investment on the part of the consumer, but government rebates are also included. If you install solar panels in your home, you should only have to do it once and expect them to last for a long time. I am not defending Solyndra, they may have other problems, but this is true with so many American companies. It is difficult to produce a quality product at a fair price, when China is producing junk at a cheaper price. Child labor is cheap.

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