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  •  We do not have proof it was destroyed, but (3+ / 0-)

    there are multiple testimonies that additional video/ camera evidence was "confiscated"

    I will look up the link in my previous diary's...

    Verbal repetitive reinforced Bull S; is MSM weapon of mass destruction!

    by laserhaas on Wed Sep 21, 2011 at 10:14:32 PM PDT

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    •  Could be. There's no question the authorities took (1+ / 0-)
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      possession of 2 cell phones. They might have been confiscated against someone's will, they might have been volunteered, or, in my view most likely, they might have been turned over by their owner after an intimidating conversation with an officer. That's why I posed the broader question of "what would you do?" Because I would want the perpetrators to be prosecuted, I can imagine being convinced by an investigator to turn over the cell phone voluntarily, even though I would be suspicious about what would happen to it. I'm not sure what I would do.

      Other than the 2 phones, every report I've seen -- and you two have been following this much more closely than I -- relates to preventing, interfering with, or attempting to seize photos during the investigation AFTER the beating is over. (See, for example, the story of "Bunny" in the OC Weekly link.) This is a very important issue -- the right of citizens to video the police performing public duties. That's what some of the comments in this thread relate to, and other diaries have described the legal challenges working their way through the system on this issue.

      We do know of one video that was not seized, or stopped by police mid-recording, as far as I can tell. That's the video that everyone keeps linking -- the one in this diary -- apparently taken by someone in the bus shelter. Obviously no police came and confiscated that (I don't see anything incriminating in it, but the audio is certainly disturbing) and, at least for the time of the video, no police came over to stop the recording.

      In this case, I think people tend to mix up the two issues. One issue is "what should police procedure be when people want to record them?" That needs to be informed by whatever courts decide about the right to record. The other issue -- evidence that gets destroyed or deep-sixed -- is, frankly, corruption. The response to it ought to be swift and severe -- if it happened.

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