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  •  Hear, hear, friend! n/t (7+ / 0-)

    Capitalism may be our enemy, but it is also our teacher. --V.I. Lenin equalitymaine.org

    by commonmass on Thu Sep 22, 2011 at 08:33:18 AM PDT

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    •  My opposition to (6+ / 0-)

      the death penalty has been sorely tested many, many times.  Right now, I'm following the Komisarjevsky trial in the Connecticut Petit murders.  Probably the most heinous case in this state -- rape of a mother and an 11 year old, murder by fire.  I completely understand Dr. Petit's desire for the death penalty for the two psychopaths -- I wouldn't fault him for killing both of them himself -- but exceptions shouldn't be the rule.  Lethal injection (maybe 20 years hence or not at all because CT wants to abolish the death penalty) will not heal Dr. Petit for his loss and memories of what was done to his family.

      Vi er alle norske " My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total." Barbara Jordan, 1974

      by gchaucer2 on Thu Sep 22, 2011 at 08:47:06 AM PDT

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      •  Really gchaucer2? Can you determine what (2+ / 0-)
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        will or will not heal Dr. Petit's pain?

        Please understand that unless you've been in a similar situation, you don't and shouldn't assume what will or will not be.

        Also, there were 3 murder victims, not 2. The mother and 2 daughters were shown no mercy.

        I'm a woman of color, who grew up in the north (Detroit, Michigan)

        by Boris Badenov on Thu Sep 22, 2011 at 10:27:21 AM PDT

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        •  I don't see "right to closure" (2+ / 0-)
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          anywhere in the Constitution.

          I'm not opposed to a little death penalty here and there, but not as a balm for the victim's family.

        •  one may get pleasure (1+ / 0-)
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          out of seeing the death of an evil person who did you harm, but it won't heal the soul.  Anyway, the purpose of the legal system isn't vengeance.

          I wrestle with capital punishment in cases of treason that arise to actual acts of war against the U.S.  The death penalty is abhorrent but if the U.S. could bring military force to bear within the laws of war, it might be able to kill in that sense.  (That would pretty much be limited to someone like Benedict Arnold -- not even the Rosenbergs would rise to that standard.)  Even still, it doesn't make execution an actual good idea, since there's the opportunity to not kill those people.  Moral justification is the beginning, not the end of the discussion.

          "This world demands the qualities of youth: not a time of life but a state of mind[.]" -- Robert F. Kennedy

          by Loge on Thu Sep 22, 2011 at 10:52:54 AM PDT

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