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  •  Yeah (0+ / 0-)

    It reminds me of a little turd who follows me around, HR'ing my comments on the lame excuse that I might have written something "insulting."

    I've noticed, however, that this little hypocritical turd never HR's any of the many comments in which somebody personally insults me.

    If you want to know who this person is, I'm sure that he or she will be along presently to HR this comment for being "insulting." ;-)

    An idealist is one who, on noticing that a rose smells better than a cabbage, concludes that it will also make better soup.
    -- H. L. Mencken

    by bryfry on Sat Sep 24, 2011 at 05:37:04 PM PDT

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    •  I've never seen anyone insult you , (0+ / 0-)

      please post links to any or all the insults !
      I double dog dare you , again .

      "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

      by indycam on Sat Sep 24, 2011 at 06:12:43 PM PDT

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      •  This is a diary about energy and ignorance. (1+ / 0-)
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        While you are, in fact, ignorant, the diary is not about you.

        You are NO longer welcome in this diary to engage in paranoid stalking nor to distract from the topic at hand, about which you have nothing to say.

        If you want to write a diary whining about your personal issues, do so.   I'm sure I'll have nothing to do with it, since I am uninteresting in what you have to say or any of your cry baby childish antics.

        I believe that the owner of this website has indicated that diaries are to be treated as if it is the home of the writer.

        You are not welcome in this diary, nor any of my other diaries.   You have nothing useful or intelligent to say about any topics, and simply are engaging in paranoid and disturbing self absorbed nonsense.

        Get out and stay out.

        •  Can you post a link to the rules you are talking (0+ / 0-)

          about ?
          When I am talked about by bryfry , I will respond .

          "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

          by indycam on Sun Sep 25, 2011 at 08:11:06 PM PDT

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          •  Go ask the sockpuppet (0+ / 0-)

            At the very least, you should go ask her what she meant when she tried to kick me out of her diaries, using the exact same excuse.

            Better yet, why don't you ask Markos about it. I already have.

            Given that you have chosen to ignore Markos's warnings about hijacking diaries with meta fights, I personally don't think that you give a damn about what Markos thinks. You'll use any excuse to try to bully other people here, because it gets you off.

            I'm apparently now HROS in the sockpuppet's diaries. Just be glad that NNadir has too much class to do the same to you.

            An idealist is one who, on noticing that a rose smells better than a cabbage, concludes that it will also make better soup.
            -- H. L. Mencken

            by bryfry on Sun Sep 25, 2011 at 08:44:03 PM PDT

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            •  ... (0+ / 0-)
              Given that you have chosen to ignore Markos's warnings about hijacking diaries with meta fights,
              Where , when was this warning given ? Did he send you a private message ? If you go back to the comments and look at the time stamps you will find it was you who brought the fight into the thread not me .
              I personally don't think that you give a damn about what Markos thinks.
              That's funny coming from you , you break the rules here all the time and have said you don't care about the rules . In this very thread you have reced nnadirs insults of other site users .
              You'll use any excuse to try to bully other people here, because it gets you off.
              I have been asking you to stop insulting people , you have refused .
              Just be glad that NNadir has too much class to do the same to you.
              "Class" ? Count all the insults he has flung in just this diary , then get back to me about his "Class".
              Go ask the sockpuppet
              I'm asking you . Link to the rule if you can , I double dog dare you .

              "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

              by indycam on Mon Sep 26, 2011 at 07:37:00 AM PDT

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            •  ... (0+ / 0-)

              The sockpuppet has CONFESSED to being a (2+ / 1-)

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              Please stop insulting people , please stop recommending insults .
              Comment all you like but edit out any insults before you hit the post button .
              Recommend any and all comments that you like if they don't contain insults .
              When you see one from your team flinging insults
              mention to them that its not OK .

              "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

              by indycam on Mon Sep 26, 2011 at 07:49:35 AM PDT

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              •  You might try (0+ / 0-)

                not having people's ability to rate comments removed in order to stifle debate, if you want people to believe that you do not enjoy throwing your weight around.

                Frankly, although not a prolific poster, I am a lifelong Democrat and as you show in the above post, a member of the site since 2004.   I did not appreciate your abuse of power, and frankly, your actions do not earn my respect.

                I do wish that you would actually read some of NNadir's diaries rather than combing through them for language to feel insulted by.  

                If the diaries annoy you, good:  actually look up some facts on the subject.

                In general, try to disprove anything NNadir has listed as a fact (rather than his way of expressing those facts) by coming up with a believable reference.  That's what having someone annoy you should provoke, more and better debate, not hiding behind hide rates, abusive diary tagging, and interfering with other people's accounts in general.

                Debate is good;  this kind of pettifoggery is beneath you and the site.

                And frankly, since you have levelled the same kind of criticism at NNadir, your behavior make it difficult to believe anything you say unless you are supplying quality references.  This is more a critique of myself than of you.  The facts do not change because of your behavior.

                •  ... (0+ / 0-)
                  You might try not having people's ability to rate comments removed in order to stifle debate
                  I linked your uprate of insults to Kos , he read it and came to his decision . If you have a problem with what the owner of this site has done , contact him .
                  I did not appreciate your abuse of power, and frankly, your actions do not earn my respect.
                  What power do you think I have ? And how did I abuse that power ? As for respect , you recommended insults , flaming insults .
                  I do wish that you would actually read some of NNadir's diaries rather than combing through them for language to feel insulted by.
                  What makes you think I don't read them fully ? What proof do you have to back up that opinion ? As for "language to feel insulted by" that was Kos who decided that in fact the insults were insults . Are you saying Kos got it all wrong and what he felt were insults were not in fact insults ?
                  In general, try to disprove anything NNadir has listed as a fact (rather than his way of expressing those facts) by coming up with a believable reference.
                   It's not for you to say that he should be able to express himself in any way he likes . He , you and I must express our ideas within the rules . If you can not play by the rules , the rules Kos has asked everyone to live by on his site , you should find a new place that has rules you can live with .
                  http://www.dailykos.com/...
                  Debate is good;  this kind of pettifoggery is beneath you and the site.
                  From the faq pages
                  There is also a fifth kind of troll: the simple asshole. It doesn't matter how pure your motives are, if you can't get along with other users, you're not doing yourself, them, the site, or anything else any good. 90% of all trolls are banned because of their behaviors towards other users, not because of their opinions.
                  Trusted Users have a responsibility to police the general tenor and content of conversations. The site caters to progressive Democrats, and others are welcome to the extent that they wish to make themselves welcome. And don't be an ass.

                  Kos has asked us all to point out to him problems , he has taken on the role that was being done by MeteorBlades , he has said that he can not read every comment and find all the problems by himself . I pointed out to Kos what I thought was a problem , Kos looked into it and took what he thought was appropriate action . If you feel you have been mistreated , contact Kos , he is a reasonable person with a great deal of knowledge about all the ins and outs of his web site . Explain to him how I am wrong and how to fix things in a way that will make you happy .

                  You might try
                  not having people's ability to rate comments removed in order to stifle debate,
                  Your ability to debate has not been stifled , you can engage in debate on DailyKos to your hearts content . You just have lost your ratings abilities . You lost your ratings ability because of what you chose to do , nobody else lost them for you .

                  Kos not long ago removed some peoples ratings abilities , then just a few days ago he gave back everyone's rating abilities . He said at that time he hoped everyone had learned the lesson , then you recommended insults .

                  http://www.dailykos.com/...

                  I am restoring everyone's ratings abilities. That includes people who lost their rating abilities before my own purge. The "NR" will remain on their mojometer until the next time they are rec'd.

                  I've made my point. Hopefully, people have learned to play nicer.


                  "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

                  by indycam on Tue Sep 27, 2011 at 08:19:03 AM PDT

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                  •  S'OK (0+ / 0-)

                    I am no one that I expect Markos to listen to.  I drop by to read the news, and very occasionally comment on things that I am interested in - CT politicians and politics, Republican foibles, privacy rights, cooking, gardening, Native American issues, and energy policy.  It is a long  time since I stopped commenting enough to retain Trusted User status, although I had it for quite a while,  some years ago.

                    It is Markos' site, and I believe he has the right to run it exactly as he sees fit.  He doesn't need to waste his time having me run to him complaining.  He has lots more important things to be doing.  He owes me no changes nor explanations.

                    Frankly, I did not find the comment I rated positively to be an egregious insult, since IMO you use exactly the same level of language, and was very surprised that you did become upset to the point that you decided to turn me in, but that's life.  In fact, I find this whole exchange very surreal.

                    I feel  a bit like Johnny Fever who got fired for saying booger on the air. My stupidity.

                    I found that you (or whoever did it) tagging this diary with the sole tag "Liar" to be a lot more insulting (not to mention destructive of accurate site searching), but opinions always differ.  I jumped to the conclusion that you were the one who did it, because you were the person most visible of that stripe, but it may not have been you.  If it wasn't you, then I apologize for my assumptions.

                    As it happens, some kind soul has fixed the tags, but I  would not be astounded to see more tagging abuse in the future.

                    If I see it, I may report it, since kos wants our help to clean up the site.  Thank you for telling me about that.  

                    •  I did not add or delete any tag . (0+ / 0-)

                      I never even saw that tag on this diary .
                      I really never look at the tags .

                      Without the name attached to the tag as it was in the past
                      its difficult to know who did that tag , for all we know nnadir did it .

                      And yes , if you see tag abuse report it asap .
                      They can see who did the tag and they can take appropriate action .

                      since IMO you use exactly the same level of language
                      Please link to where I used the same level of language since MeteorBlades became active in site governance ? With the change over I cleaned up my act to try to go along and help with what they were correctly trying to do .
                      I will freely admit that I stooped for awhile to nnadirs level to try and get him to clean up his act . Asking nicely was not getting any results so I tried to fight fire with fire , that didn't work any better .
                      As I recall you admitted that he was indeed what I was calling him .  

                      "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

                      by indycam on Tue Sep 27, 2011 at 04:52:17 PM PDT

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                •  Eh ... (0+ / 0-)

                  bullies are all the same. This one just doesn't know how to use punctuation properly.

                  An idealist is one who, on noticing that a rose smells better than a cabbage, concludes that it will also make better soup.
                  -- H. L. Mencken

                  by bryfry on Tue Sep 27, 2011 at 03:01:29 PM PDT

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        •  False accusation of stalking are forbidden . (0+ / 0-)

          And on the subject of energy and ignorance , do go on about Green peace .

          http://www.dailykos.com/...

          OK then . (6+ / 0-)

              In my experience, there are ZERO anti-nukes, whether they are the scientific illiterates in Greenpeace, who are not apologists for dangerous fossil fuel mining, dangerous fossil fuel waste dumping

          http://www.greenpeace.org//eastasia/news/stories/climate-energy/2008/coal-crisis/

              Last year environmental and social costs associated with China's use of coal came to RMB1.7 trillion - that's about 7.1 percent of the nation's GDP for the same year.

              This staggering amount was calculated by China's top economists  in The True Cost of Coal, a new report commissioned by Greenpeace, the Energy Foundation and WWF.

              These so-called "external" costs come from air and water pollution, ecosystem degradation, damage to buildings and infrastructure, and human death and injuries.

          http://www.greenpeace.org/....

          OK , Greenpeace is an apologists for dangerous fossil fuel mining, dangerous fossil fuel waste dumping .
          Facts be damned .

          "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

          by indycam on Sun Sep 25, 2011 at 08:15:21 PM PDT

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        •  First of all (3+ / 0-)
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          you cannot keep people out of your diaries. If you want to control your commenters, go set up a Blogspot site and happily choose your own audience.

          Second of all, this diary is pretty dickish, hence it's a free for all.

          Third, that doesn't excuse the uprating of insults, so i've taken action on that front.

          •  Good advice (0+ / 0-)
            First of all you cannot keep people out of your diaries. If you want to control your commenters, go set up a Blogspot site and happily choose your own audience.

            Thank you very much for this information. Perhaps you should inform other users here of this rule, since she has tried the same tactic to keep me out of her diaries.

            This is a universal rule, isn't it?

            An idealist is one who, on noticing that a rose smells better than a cabbage, concludes that it will also make better soup.
            -- H. L. Mencken

            by bryfry on Sun Sep 25, 2011 at 10:38:12 PM PDT

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    •  "you liar" (0+ / 0-)

      "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

      by indycam on Sat Sep 24, 2011 at 06:19:50 PM PDT

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    •  I stand corrected (0+ / 0-)

      It appears that he, she, or it is embarrassed about his/her/its past behavior and has refrained from leveling his/her/its usual punishment of childish and inappropriate HR's and has, instead, fallen back on the time-tested technique of playground taunts.

      Let it not be said that I'm unwilling to admit when I'm wrong. ;-)

      Given past experience, however, I predict that I shall now be threatened and ordered to "clean up my act."

      An idealist is one who, on noticing that a rose smells better than a cabbage, concludes that it will also make better soup.
      -- H. L. Mencken

      by bryfry on Sat Sep 24, 2011 at 08:29:12 PM PDT

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      •  I will go on hide rating your comments (0+ / 0-)

        any time I see you insulting other people .
        You can avoid being hide rated for insulting people by not insulting people . Your choice .

        "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

        by indycam on Sun Sep 25, 2011 at 08:11:08 AM PDT

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