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  •  In Old English Þ and ð were interchangable (4+ / 0-)
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    the "ye olde" thing came about from certain book hands wherein loop on the þ is extended upwards and it looks a bit like a "Y" you can also see that form of þ in some early editions of Old English texts such as those published by Archbishop Matthew Parker's circle.

    I Middle English "Y" attached the front of a word is a past participle indicator (and a close cognate with the Germanic "Ge-" prefix): eg "ycleped" (named) is the past participle of "cleppan" (to name) and is pronounced I.

    One specific example of the interchangability of þ and ð is the word "oþþæt" it is also spelled (sometimes on the same page written by the same scribe) oððæt, oðþæt, and (in one late OE text I have seen) othþæt.

    Hroþgar and Hroðgar are both used in "Beowulf" and the variations þæt, ðæt, þæm, ðæm, etc are all common.

    Hwær cwom mearg? Hwær cwom mago? Hwær cwom maþþumgyfa? Hwær cwom symbla gesetu? Hwær sindon seledreamas?
    Eala beorht bune! Eala byrnwiga! Eala þeodnes þrym!

    by Alea iacta est on Tue Sep 27, 2011 at 09:36:46 AM PDT

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    •  That I was supposed to be the IPA symbol /I/ (1+ / 0-)
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      to denote the pronunciation of the Y- prefix.

      Hwær cwom mearg? Hwær cwom mago? Hwær cwom maþþumgyfa? Hwær cwom symbla gesetu? Hwær sindon seledreamas?
      Eala beorht bune! Eala byrnwiga! Eala þeodnes þrym!

      by Alea iacta est on Tue Sep 27, 2011 at 01:30:13 PM PDT

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