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  •  I am surprised by Perry's quick collapse. (15+ / 0-)

    I guess being rational about immigrants and vaccines is anti conservative.

    I have looked into the abyss and the GOP stated back out at me.

    A Catholic, Jew, Muslim and Buddhist walk into Al Aqsa Mosque. Buddhist immediately exclaims: "excuse me I appear to be in the wrong joke."

    by Salo on Thu Sep 29, 2011 at 09:04:08 AM PDT

    •  Perry's quick collapse (2+ / 0-)
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      Kimball Cross, TofG

      Seems more like his support dosed off

      So it's The Why do you hate this country You're Obsessed with misquoting me out of context while I was in the process of misspeaking with the sun in my eyes while chowing down and bashing Sharia law God Bless America defense.......

      by JML9999 on Thu Sep 29, 2011 at 09:15:18 AM PDT

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    •  You should not be surprised (7+ / 0-)

      Contrary to commonly held opinion around here, the majority of the GOP is not insane.  They see the same vulnerability in Perry that we do - and they were just waiting for him to melt down.  

      Romney is the logical choice if you really want to beat Obama - and for President, the GOP usually makes the logical choice, as do the Dems.  

      •  Isn't _Huntsman_ the logical choice (4+ / 0-)

        if you wanna beat Obama? He's Romney minus the Stalinistic Romneycare.

        "Gussie, a glutton for punishment, stared at himself in the mirror."

        by GussieFN on Thu Sep 29, 2011 at 09:19:07 AM PDT

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        •  Huntsman has the China Problem (2+ / 0-)
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          China is a currency manipulator whose dollar peg has contributed to millions of blue-collar jobs lost over the last few years.

          And how could Huntsman even broach Solyndra when he was ambassador to the nation that has illegally given subsidies that led to its demise.

          Huntsman never had a shot.

          Learn about Centrist Economics, learn about Robert Rubin's Hamilton Project. http://www1.hamiltonproject.org/es/hamilton/hamilton_hp.htm

          by PatriciaVa on Thu Sep 29, 2011 at 09:24:21 AM PDT

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          •  But Huntsman was (0+ / 0-)

            in China like a scout, behind enemy lines. Who better to protect us from them? Or something.

            "Gussie, a glutton for punishment, stared at himself in the mirror."

            by GussieFN on Thu Sep 29, 2011 at 09:28:34 AM PDT

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            •  Except that he's criticized Romney for taking... (1+ / 0-)
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              ...a hard line against Chinese currency manipulation.

              As moderate as Huntsman is on social issues, on China, he's to the Right of most of the GOP candidates.

              He's far to the Right of Romney on China.

              Learn about Centrist Economics, learn about Robert Rubin's Hamilton Project. http://www1.hamiltonproject.org/es/hamilton/hamilton_hp.htm

              by PatriciaVa on Thu Sep 29, 2011 at 09:32:32 AM PDT

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        •  Lets not get carried away (0+ / 0-)

          as Rush Limbaugh put it, "Huntsman isn't a RINO, Huntsman is a Democrat."

          Like the saying goes (well, sort of):  You can't beat a real democrat with a democrat-light.

      •  yep, they nominated McCain in 2008 (3+ / 0-)
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        when the primaries were dominated by only the most enthusiastic conservatives (seeing as how many Republicans were totally demoralized and independents were mostly voting in the Dem primary).

        I wouldn't call them "sane," but Republican presidential primary voters have historically opted for the strongest candidate, not ideological darlings.

        •  I tend to call them (2+ / 0-)
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          Stroszek, MikePhoenix

          "pragmatic." That's not mutually exclusive with "insane" or any other descriptive. But they do tend to value perceived electability over purity when push comes to shove. This year will be no exception (I'm not saying Romney's a lock, but just that electability will be the big talking point as the primaries begin).

          With every goddess a let down, every idol a bring down, it gets you down / but the search for perfection, your own predilection, goes on and on and on. . .

          by cardinal on Thu Sep 29, 2011 at 09:29:45 AM PDT

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        •  Yeah, but every other candidate self-destructed (3+ / 0-)
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          leaving McCain and Romney — and they were less enthused about Romney. I remember the halcyon days of that primary when the frontrunners were Bill Frist, Rick Santorum, and George Allen. All of them fell apart under pressure or lost momentum, first Frist, then Santorum, leaving Allen as the putative shoo-in.

          And then ... macaca!

          Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07. http://www.ewaynepowell.com/

          by anastasia p on Thu Sep 29, 2011 at 10:09:40 AM PDT

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      •  Perry's support didn't go to Romney (4+ / 0-)
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        it went to Cain/Gingrich.  This was not a repudiation of Perry as too crazy, but rather he is not crazy enough for them.

    •  There is virtually no way (2+ / 0-)
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      to satisfy the extremists who control the GOP and sound sane anymore.

      Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07. http://www.ewaynepowell.com/

      by anastasia p on Thu Sep 29, 2011 at 10:07:12 AM PDT

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    •  He just had a newcomer bounce. (0+ / 0-)

      Remember for a little while Fred Thompson did great in the polls when he was the Republican Savior of the Month.

      The field is in flux and you should take all these polls with a grain of salt.

      What matters is can he place in either Iowa or New Hampshire.  And if he can't how much momentum will those winners have and will he able to build a firewall in South Carolina strong enough to survive that momentum?

      Right now it's about organization and money.

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