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  •  If single payer (26+ / 0-)

    is going to come here this is how it going to come. Enough states adopt it, show that it works, saves money and folks get equal or better healthcare outcomes.

    Republicans 2012 . . . Keeping millions out of work to put one man out of a job.

    by jsfox on Fri Sep 30, 2011 at 10:43:55 AM PDT

    •  It's how it happened in Canada (21+ / 0-)

      I do think it's the only way it'll happen here. The second track that needs to be pushed, in case Schweitzer's wrong and the ACA is implemented as written, is getting behind the efforts of Peter Welsh in the House and Ron Wyden in the Senate, to move the date for state waivers under the ACA up.

      It is a provision in Obama's jobs bill, as well. Instead of 2017, the waivers woudl be available in 2014.

      But what Schweitzer's doing is important--trying to drive the discussion and keep talking single payer even outside of the ACA.

      "There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning." —Warren Buffett

      by Joan McCarter on Fri Sep 30, 2011 at 11:05:49 AM PDT

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      •  I'm concerned about his lack of optimism (5+ / 0-)
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        about an appropriately broad waiver being applied in order for Montana to move forward, especially because I agree with you that Schweitzer's track is our best hope at moving single-payer forward nationally.

        This, in my estimation, would be excellent fodder for an organized pressure campaign to force the Feds to grant such a waiver. What appears to be a state-level issue has as much long-term national significance as any other issue with perhaps the exception of climate change, and we all need to act to help move it.

        I like the ostensibly contagious spirit of this current Occupy Wall Street movement, and would like to see us talk less about pessimism and more about how we can organize to overcome obstacles.

        So I was at a concert the other night, and the performer says at one point: "I was born in 1980... So I've lived my whole life in postmortem America."

        by surfbird007 on Fri Sep 30, 2011 at 11:44:06 AM PDT

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      •  This Administration will scotch single payer (4+ / 0-)
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        If single payer is going to come here this is how it going to come. Enough states adopt it, show that it works, saves money and folks get equal or better healthcare outcomes.

        You really think this administration will let any of that that happen, after they pushed for, and passed, a protection racket for the insurance companies' wet dream of  "health care?"

        Note they turned down any negotiation for Big Pharma's pricing.

        Not that the Republicans would let that happen, either.

        •  Hold on (2+ / 0-)
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          No mater whether he pushed or didn't single payer was never ever going to happen on a federal level. Just bloody not possible.

          So the best way is to let it happen state by state and show the success of it.

          And I have got good money that if the waiver time is moved up as both some members of Congress want and the President now wants (includedin the jobs bill) yes it can happen. Schweitzer may have a bigger problem with his own legislature than with Obama.

          Republicans 2012 . . . Keeping millions out of work to put one man out of a job.

          by jsfox on Fri Sep 30, 2011 at 11:59:33 AM PDT

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          •  It's not going to be moved up (0+ / 0-)

            The House Republicans will not entertain any idea that makes the PPACA work better, they've already said this. So moving the date up is DOA. When we have a Republican Senate in 2013, it won't even reach the floor.

            States will now have to wait until 2017 to ask the next president, who will likely be a Republican or a severely conservative Democrat, for a waiver. Why would they allow it? The next president will get a huge financial incentive to deny it or cripple it.

            This notion of state-by-state single payer is a fantasy. Obama made sure it will not happen.

            "Only idiots believe the earth is getting warmer. Besides, they've proven it's only getting warmer because of sunspots."

            by Carnet on Fri Sep 30, 2011 at 02:12:23 PM PDT

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      •  Sort of like (1+ / 0-)
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        A certain democrat in the White House should have done two years ago.

        That's Countdown for the 2,082nd day since Mission Accomplished. You thought that would change? Are the troops home yet? Keith Olbermann January 20, 2009

        by Ed in Montana on Fri Sep 30, 2011 at 02:05:58 PM PDT

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    •  ACA has created this debate and the Gov (1+ / 0-)
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      plan so the President did the right thing by getting whatever he could. NOW everyone can see the problems much more clearly.

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