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  •  If I were EW, I'd be ticked off (2+ / 4-)
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    Obama used the grassroots activists to get elected.  

    He used their foot soldiers, he took their money, he used their talking points. Once he got into office, all that went OUT the window. He has continued and expanded just about every bad policy Bush enacted.

    Obama  has recognized Warren's surge in popularity and is now using HER words to try to get re-elected.  He recognizes the popularity of her words and is now using them.  

    If Obama gets re-elected, it will be back to the same ole' corporatist, sell out BS as his first term.  Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

    Ron Paul would provide more change in our politics than the current occupant. Yes, Paul is "out there" on some issues, but he has been consistent throughout the years.  Paul believes in and is for getting rid of the Fed, he is for ending ALL the wars (what is it? 5 now?) he was against the Bankster bailouts, he would legalize marijuana, end the patriot act and tht is just for starters.

    I can guarantee you a Romney Preznit and an Obama Presidency would look almost EXACTLY the same. A Paul presidency would look different. He has even been quoted as considering Kucinich in his cabinet.  

    I voted for Obama in 2008.  I will not vote for 'evil' again bcuz everybody knows that less evil is still evil.

    •  Couldn't agree with you less. n/t (6+ / 0-)

      "Congress has not been able to fix these flaws so far, so I will." - President Obama, 9/23/11

      by BarackStarObama on Sun Oct 02, 2011 at 06:10:19 PM PDT

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    •  You're truly an idiot IMHO (1+ / 0-)
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      ..and I think Elizabeth Warren would probably agree. Although I admit I haven't asked her personally.

      "So, am I right or what?"

      by itzik shpitzik on Sun Oct 02, 2011 at 06:17:29 PM PDT

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      •  name calling? seriously? serously?? (1+ / 0-)
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        I would like to know which part of my statement is not true? Obama has doubled down on just about ALL Bush policies. check Ron Paul has been consistent, check. Obama used the grassroots, check. Obama has enacted alot of policies that are well right of Reagan and is a corporatist sell out, check. We have drone strikes where innocents are killed daily in Yemen, Syria, Pakistan, Libya and wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. (oh my, I guess thats six, not five) okay, so you got me there. He's assassinated an American Citizen for petes sake! Where in the constitution does it state that, THAT is okay? Obama is less evil than Cheney, but he is still evil

        •   And your point is? (2+ / 0-)
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          that we should voote for Ron Paul because he is consistent?

          Yeah, you've convinced me with your hyperbole. NOT. President Obama is not evil; he is hamstrung by evil people and was, perhaps, not well served by his first Chief of Staff.  It is pure idiocy to call him evil.  Disappointing, maybe.  Never evil.

          If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. John F. Kennedy ( inaugural address, January 20, 1961)

          by Outraged Mom on Sun Oct 02, 2011 at 06:49:15 PM PDT

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        •  Methinks you don't know your Constitution. (4+ / 0-)
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          Obama cannot make legislation. The mess that was the legislative outcome in the first half-term should be directed at the atrocious Senate - where the conserva-dems ensured the worst possible outcome - the appearance of a super-majority without actually having one.

          I think America got very lucky in snagging him as President, and I also think we have an unsung hero in Nancy Pelosi. No Obama is not a liberal as I would want, but he's as liberal as America is allowing right now - and would set the stage very well for Elizabeth Warren in 2016.

          Although I do favor a yin and yang balance between conservatives and liberals I would be very happy if the current batch of conservatives would be politically wiped off the map for next few election cycles and give the rest of us a chance to right the ship.

        •  If the shoe fits...n/t (1+ / 0-)
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          Just as prostitution is the world's oldest profession, religion is the world's oldest scam.

          by Agent420 on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 08:54:00 AM PDT

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    •  out there on "some issues"! I'll say: (2+ / 0-)
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      He'd bring us back to the good ol' days of illegal abortions:

      * Immediately saving lives by effectively repealing Roe v. Wade and preventing activist judges from interfering with state decisions on life by removing abortion from federal court jurisdiction through legislation modeled after his “We the People Act.”

      * Defining life as beginning at conception by passing a “Sanctity of Life Act.”

      Because he agrees with Thomas Jefferson that it is “sinful and tyrannical” to “compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors,” Ron Paul will also protect the American people’s freedom of conscience by working to prohibit taxpayer funds from being used for abortions, Planned Parenthood, or any other so-called “family planning” program.


      http://www.ronpaul2012.com/...

      He believes Social Security and Medicare are unConstitutional:
      http://thinkprogress.org/...

      Read his views on religion & government -- scary as hell to me:

      The Founding Fathers envisioned a robustly Christian yet religiously tolerant America, with churches serving as vital institutions that would eclipse the state in importance. Throughout our nation's history, churches have done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility. Moral and civil individuals are largely governed by their own sense of right and wrong, and hence have little need for external government. This is the real reason the collectivist Left hates religion: Churches as institutions compete with the state for the people's allegiance, and many devout people put their faith in God before putting their faith in the state. Knowing this, the secularists wage an ongoing war against religion, chipping away bit by bit at our nation's Christian heritage. Christmas itself may soon be a casualty of that war.
      (actually, most of framers were not particularly religious, despite what Paul says).
      He supports a flat tax (CPAC 2011) which is, of course, outrageously regressive hurting the poor but making the rich richer.
      Out there -- he's deep in tea party land.

      If, in our efforts to win, we become as dishonest as our opponents on the right, we don't deserve to triumph.

      by Tamar on Sun Oct 02, 2011 at 08:41:09 PM PDT

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    •  Concern trolls out in force today (4+ / 0-)
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      "Obama and Romney are the same!  Stop caring!"

      Things that would not have happened under McCain
      - Health Care Reform
      - Killing OBL (if you object, keep in mind that McCain specifically said he would NOT go into Pakistan)
      - End Don't Ask Don't Tell
      - 2 liberal SC justices (absolutely HUGE with the high court teetering on the brink of ultra-conservatism)
      - "Arab Spring" handled gracefully without US ground troops but with dictators falling
      - GM and Chrysler saved, with the US Gov't profiting from the loans
      - Creation of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau

      So, kindly STFU with the "both sides are the same!" business.  It's unbelievably stupid.

      •  great list. When we feel frustrated with Obama (1+ / 0-)
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        for going way more than halfway to meet the Republicans, it's important to be reminded of the things that he's has gotten accomplished.  
        Thanks!

        If, in our efforts to win, we become as dishonest as our opponents on the right, we don't deserve to triumph.

        by Tamar on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 03:36:24 PM PDT

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    •  LAME! n/t (1+ / 0-)
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      Just as prostitution is the world's oldest profession, religion is the world's oldest scam.

      by Agent420 on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 08:49:42 AM PDT

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    •  HR'd for promoting Ron Paul, which is (0+ / 0-)

      expressly forbidden on this website.

      Kos has said he'll ban anyone who does it .. and I hope he does.

      •  agree. I was wondering about this and why he (1+ / 0-)
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        was getting away with something specifically labeled as off limits.

        If, in our efforts to win, we become as dishonest as our opponents on the right, we don't deserve to triumph.

        by Tamar on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 03:37:29 PM PDT

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