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  •  The Anonymous movement dissolves (4+ / 0-)

    if calls to violence escalate.  This is far and away the most violent rhetoric I have heard from any product put out by Anonymous.  I haven't heard anything like it.

    Anonymous can also mean "hacked".  What is the authenticity mechanism for such video?  It is certainly not in the interest of the people protesting at OWS and similar events around the country to call for violence the way this video does against bankers.  The protesters are outgunned, to say the least.

    Is this a jack?  If it's not, it needs to be repudiated.

    "And now we know that government by organized money is just as dangerous as government by organized mob." -- FDR

    by Mogolori on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 12:35:19 PM PDT

    •  Guess you're a noob? (1+ / 0-)
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      Never saw any of their Scientology videos, huh?

      •  Guess so, at least to this strain of hate talk. (2+ / 0-)
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        I just turned myself on to the originator of these words, it seems -- zippitydodah.blogspot.com, from Aug. 7th.

        This is end-timer talk...

        "And now we know that government by organized money is just as dangerous as government by organized mob." -- FDR

        by Mogolori on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 12:57:10 PM PDT

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        •  It's a good thing you weren't in Tahrir then. (1+ / 0-)
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          We don't need nervous-nellies at a time like this.  Go play bridge and let the youngins have their revolution.

          •  Heh. (0+ / 0-)

            We old farts tend to get gas when things get too exciting ;-}

            Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes
            Turn and face the strange
            Ch-ch-changes
            Don't want to be a richer man
            Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes
            Turn and face the strange
            Ch-ch-changes
            Just gonna have to be a different man
            Time may change me
            But I can't trace time
            Mmm, yeah

            David Bowie


            "When the powerless are shut out of the media, we will make the media irrelevant" ~Anonymous~

            by Lisa Lockwood on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 01:13:24 PM PDT

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          •  zippetydodah is garbage, dude (0+ / 0-)

            That's where the two-month-old text of this video came from.  They're all excited about the Mayan calendar and killing Jews over there.  Is that your cup of tea?

            And the Tahrirists didn't run around slaughtering bankers, like this video calls for.  That was a peaceful, principled and successful overthrow of a dictator.  The warring was done by Mubarak's thugs, not the people on the square.  There is video material available on this, if you're curious...

            "And now we know that government by organized money is just as dangerous as government by organized mob." -- FDR

            by Mogolori on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 01:19:31 PM PDT

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      •  What the banksters have done (1+ / 0-)
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        to their 'victims' is much worse, on a much larger scale, than scientology ever dreamed of. So I imagine the blowback, when it comes, will be exponentially more severe.
        That being said, violence is not being called for. I think the language used is meant to be metaphorical, in a literary way. The phrasing and elocution  in the first video shows a much higher level of education, the delivery is almost thespian and reminds me of the way "V" spoke..... yeah yeah, in the movie.


        "When the powerless are shut out of the media, we will make the media irrelevant" ~Anonymous~

        by Lisa Lockwood on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 12:57:49 PM PDT

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        •  that's my take on it as well (1+ / 0-)
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          and given the history of the group well before it was "hacktivist" and more it's prankster internet meme anarchic ways, I'm not shocked.  It's not like the idea for using the exact masks from that specific movie sprang out of nowhere.

          It sounds more like a riff of V for Vendetta, which was always a part of it, than your standard /b rants.

          I'm checking something awful to see if my fellow goons got wind of this and what's going on.

          "Foolproof systems don't take into account the ingenuity of fools."

          by overclocking on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 01:03:13 PM PDT

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        •  Lisa, this language is taken from a website that (3+ / 0-)

          published the following on Sept. 22.

          I hereby command that all of the assets of the illegal state of Israel be seized as well as the assets of all Zionist entities and sympathizers the world over. I command the dissolution of all central banks, which are no more than organized crime laundries and counterfeiting operations, presently under the control of Zionist interests and headed up by the Satanic Rothschild Family. I command and demand that all assets of the Rothschild Crime Family and their surrogates and associates be seized and held in trust for the world public for wide dissemination among the victims of this vampire clan as soon as is practical and possible.

          I command that all world politicians proven to be complicit in the drive toward world subjugation, under the rule of Talmudic Israelis and Zionists be arrested and held for trial under the charges of crimes against humanity. I command that the Federal Reserve be dissolved and all serving officers put under arrest and held for trial. I command that all police forces be stripped of all authority and all members placed under review for previous acts of suppression and violence against the citizens of any and every country so affected.

          Straight-up hate talk.  All the other Anonymous material I've heard has been voice simulation.  This is actor-read.  I'm not sure what you've got here, but it's calls for violence are new, the text is lifted word-for-word from an end-timer site, and it's read by an actor.  I think it's a mash-up from someone who wants to conflate violent intent on the OWS folks, and I think it's needs to be taken down until it's authenticity can be verified.

          "And now we know that government by organized money is just as dangerous as government by organized mob." -- FDR

          by Mogolori on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 01:08:56 PM PDT

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          •  you forget that anyone can be an anon (2+ / 0-)
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            all they have to do is say they are.  Anyone can also fly the flag and do anything they want.  There are no rules.  And many of the players that have moved in and out of it, from places like /b, SA goons, Farkers, have a checkered history of crazy acts and harassing people for the lulz.

            It's not just a bunch of nice guy activists.

            "Foolproof systems don't take into account the ingenuity of fools."

            by overclocking on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 01:16:01 PM PDT

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            •  Haven't forgotten, but republishing hate speech (1+ / 0-)
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              from a CT site and conflating it with OWS here, on this site, disserves OWS stated dedication to non-violence.

              "And now we know that government by organized money is just as dangerous as government by organized mob." -- FDR

              by Mogolori on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 01:28:08 PM PDT

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              •  Thanks for tracking that earlier piece down (3+ / 0-)

                I'm going to take down the first video.
                That was piss poor research on my part.

                Thanks again!


                "When the powerless are shut out of the media, we will make the media irrelevant" ~Anonymous~

                by Lisa Lockwood on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 02:11:29 PM PDT

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                •  Cool, Lisa... (3+ / 0-)

                  Anonymous's material is inherently tricky to vet, but their statements show a pattern, and violence hasn't been one of them.

                  I'm really leery of violent messaging looking for opportunity in the OWS effort.  It's one of the surest ways to jam it, and you can be sure the forces opposed are plotting as we write.  That's what they do, divide.

                  "And now we know that government by organized money is just as dangerous as government by organized mob." -- FDR

                  by Mogolori on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 02:49:47 PM PDT

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          •  Concerned! (0+ / 0-)

            Good for you.

            Anonymous doesn't care.

            I can assure you.

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