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  •  Great comment, thanks. (1+ / 0-)
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    Especially, I'm pondering this passage:

    Yeah, we got free love and gay rights and abortion rights, but those things are just social issue sops thrown to us, hiding the fact that nothing has changed and in fact almost everything has gotten worse. We got sex, when what we should have been demanding was an equal distribution of power. Not that there's anything wrong with sex.

    Is it true? Has everything "gotten worse" since the 60s? History isn't linear, democratic-humanist cultural gains aren't netted smoothly or predictably. The interests of the status quo, for various reasons, have grown more brazen since the Viet Nam era. They have a mass culture (e.g., Rush Limbaugh) to abet them these days. But one reason for the RW's need to dominate the airwaves has been inexorable cultural gains by our side. I vividly remember when most people didn't have access to the internet, when "marriage equality" was not even an issue, when "universal, cost-effective healthcare," weren't buzz-words in our national political discourse, and when the Koch brothers weren't ever mentioned by name. All of that has changed. Arguably, it's gotten better.

    It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

    by karmsy on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 07:12:11 AM PDT

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    •  Yes, we have made cultural gains. (1+ / 0-)
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      I'm likening those gains to the RW connection to the religious community. They got their partial birth abortion ban right along with their money being shoveled uphill to their masters. We get our cultural sops right along with the destruction of our health care, educational, and safety net systems, the increase in profitability in our prison system, and the continued concentration of wealth.

      I have two unemployable friends who will soon be out on the street due to budget cuts. One will certainly die, the other possibly.

      We may not realize what is happening in the rest of the world because we can't see it. It's not being reported here, but we are losing our nice, comfortable planet.

      These things are not improvements.

      I can see a freeway bridge into town from my kitchen window. I say that we will not have meaningful change in this country as long as I see SUVs going across that bridge in the morning. What I'm talking about.

      Leonard Cohen is my man.

      Corruption is what keeps us safe and warm. Corruption is why we win. -Syriana

      by CarbonFiberBoy on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 08:49:36 AM PDT

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      •  We can both be right. n/t (0+ / 0-)

        It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

        by karmsy on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 08:54:51 AM PDT

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