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  •  nice but wishful thinking (4.00)
    Terri Schiavo is this year's Elian Gonzales.  In a few weeks she'll have moved on and nobody will remember her.  

    Reagan's visit to Bitburg was going to discredit the Republicans, Elian Gonzales was going to discredit the Democrats, etc.  None of it happened.  In each case there was a big media spectacle and then, same old same old.  

    Don't count on Schiavo or Bush fatigue to rescue the vegetative Democrats.  The only way they're going to win in 06 and 08 is to wake up and do something, not expect the GOP to keel over from making a mistake here or there.

    •  Lame Duck Flu (4.00)
      It is impossible to say how severe the next pandemic will be, but it is almost certain that an outbreak will occur in this second term.

      It will be up to Dr. Dean and the Democratic party to accurately diagnose the state of the nation following the next outbreak, and to operate on the body politic with precision.

    •  Could be, could be... (none)
      There have been so many times during the last four and a half years when we thought: "Aha! This will take the bastards down!", only to be disappointed when it didn't stick.

      I'm still hopeful, but I don't know how much longer I can maintain it.

      "I was so easy to defeat, I was so easy to control, I didn't even know there was a war."

      by RonV on Sat Mar 26, 2005 at 04:54:18 PM PST

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    •  "mistake here and there" (none)
      Yeah, I'd agree the republican's make "a mistake here and there".

      Like everything they have touched, it has turned to shit.

      The Budget, The Debt, The Quamire known as Iraq and Afghanistan, to the dollar sinking in value to the Australian dollar. The looting of theS.S. Trust Fund, the the weakening of our military through incompetant overextension.

      I WANT the democrats "to something", alright. I want them to oppose everything these scam artists and conmen posing as religious moral leaders attempt to implement.

      NOTHING this administration does can be termed a success for anyone but the top 1/10 of 1% Americans.

      To compare this Shiavo fiasco to the Reagan visit of Nazi Strom troopers grave, or the Elian Gonzales incident, you would need to show me the POLLS after those events.

      Personally, I see an America finally getting a first hand taste of what these republican control freaks are all about.

      And the polls show it.

    •  Disagree Because Her Issue Applies (none)
      broadly to almost every family.

      Gonzales was a one-person issue. He wasn't about deporting all the Miami Cubans, or doing anything with people that most voters might know.

      Schiavo however involves official Church policy of the biggest Protestant block and also the large Roman Catholic church. Although these institutions aren't the wingnuts on the picket line, they are both adamant about how society must handle pre-birth and end-of-life issues, and they're not at all democratic about it.

      This is bound to be on the minds (or could easily be made to be) of both voters and leaders in all the church-state integration talk from here onwards, especially the Republicans' desire to install church-compatible lifetime judges and Justices.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy....--ML King, "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Sat Mar 26, 2005 at 07:36:23 PM PST

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    •  On the other hand.... (none)
      My initial instinct was to agree with you and give you a 4, which I did. And while I do generally agree that the political implications will fade from this, let me play Devil's advocate for a minute.

      You could argue the Elian Gonzalez situation DID hurt the Democrats. I mean, the Presidency ended up in Bush's hands instead of Gore's. Florida was the key and the Cuban community came out in force for Bush. Clinton had won the state fairly easily just 4 years earlier. Now we lost it again, conclusively this time, by an even bigger margin.

      The Evangelical Christians HAVE rallied around Bush the last 2 elections and had at least some effect on the end result. Don't mistake the furor dying down in the media and in our minds over the next 6 months to 3 years as an indication its gone and forgotten for good. Sea changes in politics are often quiet and subtle.

      So, if the GOP does lose SOME bitter Evangelicals over the next few years, or they decide to start a new party or support extremist GOP candidates against moderate incumbants in primaries, or stay home, or stop giving money, or whatever, it could make a difference. In the end, all those things will subtly hurt the GOP's grip on power. Additionally, if some moderate independents believe in their mind, even subconsciously, that the Congress as presently constituted has gone too far extreme right, it could make a difference in 2006. Independents may drift the Democrats way, if only temporarily.

      Like I said, this could have some effect, no matter how subtle. Don't mistake the fact there is no day to day conversation about it six months down the line or rioting in the street to mean the Revolution has not cometh. Sometimes it comes like a thief in the night.....


      "Deserves got nothing to do with it"-William Munny, "Unforgiven"

      by GDoyle on Sat Mar 26, 2005 at 07:50:39 PM PST

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      •  Yep. 51% - 49% can easily be changed (none)
        to 49%-51%. Then you've got a whole new ballgame. You just need a few pissed off previously-voted repubs to switch over (or back) to the Dem side.

        Although the repubs rule like they've got an absolute majority, the fact is their majority is quite slim. Won't take much to flip that teeter-totter over to the other side.

        *Evil flourishes when good men do nothing*

        by clueless on Sat Mar 26, 2005 at 08:22:31 PM PST

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    •  you're wrong - Elian did hurt the Dems (none)
      Key districts in Florida went Republican in 2000 due to Elian.

      Freedom does not march.

      by ex republican on Sat Mar 26, 2005 at 11:40:27 PM PST

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