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  •  Everyone consents (2+ / 0-)
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    David Kaib, zooecium

    Everyone has to consent. Everyone agrees to the proposal or else you keep discussing, looking for a better solution.

    A consensus process may consent to allow a decision that is the preference of a majority, but everyone would have to consent to that. And consenting to that process is different than preferring a proposal and expressing your preference by voting — that's the difference between consensus process and voting.

    If you think about it, all cooperative decision-making (or mostly cooperative) processes have a consensual aspect to them that demands 100% consensus: you consent to what is going on or else you would leave/abandon it. Even Congress is sort of consensual: Members could all resign if they really didn't like what was going on. Instead they consent to losing majority votes (or filibusters) and still sticking around even though they may think a decision is terrible.

    It is only when you are unaware of what is going on or you are physically unable to stop a decision or to leave that you don't consent. Consensus just makes this consenting process more explicit and actually asks for your consent at each stage along the way instead of assuming or demanding it. That's the cooperative and honest aspect of real consensus process. And the way to be cooperative and honest is to give your consent most of the time - and only withhold it when it is important.

    •  So the media is right: unanimity is required. (0+ / 0-)

      Thx for clarification.

      •  Honest dialog (0+ / 0-)

        And, by your criteria, the media is right that OWS has no coherent message because people say they want different things.

        I just did my best, using a post and two comments to explain the difference between unanimous voting - that is, everyone expressing the same preference ("We don't like chocolate") --  to consenting or withholding your consent to a decision ("I cannot allow this group to spend all its money on chocolate -- we need to reconsider"). Perhaps my explanation is not clear enough. If so, I refer you to the longer articles I linked to. But it seems like you are deliberately not trying to understand.

        The essence of consensus decision-making is honest dialog in which everyone tries to understand other perspectives. That's what I'm asking you to do right now.

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