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    Ohiodem1, glitterscale

    First of all, yes, we could try to push through legislation that requires legislators to disclose all of their organizational affiliations, for example, each year:

    Every organization that they or their spouse or any person in which they have a business partnership with:

    a) have given money to or received money from, including anything having monetary value such as travel and accommodation expenses.

    b) have attended any meeting of, whether physically in person or via telecommunications means such as teleconferences.  

    However, the chances of getting legislators to legislate something that limits their money-connections, are approximately nil, unless we can join forces between OWS and the libertarian wing of the Tea Party.   It would take a seriously reformist-minded administration and key people in Congress to pull this off, aided by mass public pressure.  

    As far as RICO is concerned, you would have to make a credible allegation of criminal conduct and then demonstrate that the participants formed a criminal organization.  That is highly unlikely: it wasn't even done to the Catholic Church when there were thousands of molested children as victims.

    "Minus one vote for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

    by G2geek on Sat Oct 08, 2011 at 08:25:02 PM PDT

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    •  We can legislate with initiative petitions. (5+ / 0-)

      I can only speak for Ohio, and each state is different, but we can do legislation through initiative petition, and we can do constitutional amendments through petition as well.

      In Ohio, we have the overturn of SB5 on the ballot this November, and this is actually citizen legislation to overturn an egregious act of our radical republican legislature and signed by our radical republican governor, ALEC alum John Kasich.

      It looks like will have legislation to overturn voter suppression legislation HB194 next November, in the meantime, the radreps can't enforce it until it comes up for the vote, which preserves both the 2011 and 2012 elections and prevents the implementation of radrep voter suppression.

      Getting the sigs is expensive, but we need to fight fire with fire, and squelch radical republicanism advanced in all 50 states by ALEC.

      Republicans are like alligators. All mouth and no ears.

      by Ohiodem1 on Sat Oct 08, 2011 at 09:02:23 PM PDT

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      •  yes and yes; and excellent work. (3+ / 0-)
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        The amount of work needed to fight these people is as if we're dealing with a bubonic plague pandemic.  

        We have an initiative process here in California too, but for the most part it has become thoroughly corrupted by monied interests.  

        However, use every opportunity, use every means, and don't stop until you drop.  

        "Minus one vote for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

        by G2geek on Sun Oct 09, 2011 at 01:35:43 AM PDT

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      •  These initiative efforts pay off imo (4+ / 0-)
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        marina, Bob Sloan, peptabysmal, Ohiodem1

        by educating folks.  People don't get  good information and the recall efforts push the awareness up to the people's consciousness.

        Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain

        by glitterscale on Sun Oct 09, 2011 at 06:06:57 AM PDT

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