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  •  May I also point out (1+ / 0-)
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    that there is a good chance Lewis's remarks would have gotten national coverage.  Which I assumed was the whole point of OWS.

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    by Kevvboy on Mon Oct 10, 2011 at 05:10:28 AM PDT

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    •  And may I point out (0+ / 0-)

      that this got national attn as well.

      As you can see from the diarists POV, the truth  was distorted in the process-just as almost every other story we've seen come out from this  coverage has been.

      Rep Lewis is a national treasure, and I hope he does come down and address and encourage the Occupy Atlanta group.  

      But letting the story be about HIM in any way is a disservice both to him and to the folks putting their energy into this inheritor of the civil rights struggle.

      •  See, but the media (1+ / 0-)
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        doesn't shape its story to the way you want the narrative to come out.

        MLK Jr knew this and was careful to provide the media with a narrative any time he invited them to a nonviolent action.  He used provocation to ensure they had a story to cover.  But it wasn't provocation against people on his own side.

        In the absence of any other news out of the demonstration, turning away a well-known civil rights activist - or even asking him to wait an indeterminate of hours until it was "his turn to speak" - created negative news, which is the only news that actually emerged from the demonstration in Atlanta.

        This is a direct result of anarchy in the organization.  Anarchy is NOT democracy.

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        by Kevvboy on Mon Oct 10, 2011 at 07:36:42 AM PDT

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        •  Damned if you do damned if you don't (1+ / 0-)
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          This was going to be framed in a negative way if he spoke or if he didn't.  If he had spoken the media would have covered it, but it would have been through the lens of partisanship.  They would have spun the protest as nothing more than a left wing union led democratic funded protest.  And as we've seen we know how they spun not letting him speak.

          Like I said earlier most people there were disappointed, but understood what and why it happened.

          IMO I think the most appropriate time for John Lewis to speak would not be at a GA, because they are about decision making.  He needs to just show up at the occupation and hold more of a town hall style talk.  Let people get involved and let the questions flow both directions.  There doesn't need to be agreement just conversation and exchanging of ideas.

          While I appreciate you opinion Kevvboy it does nothing but harm for the community here and the conversation of ideas in the future.  These protest aren't about partisanship they are about people and ideas.  It is about forcing the political system to wake up that people are pissed off.  Not just Dem but Republicans and independents too.  These protest need everybody, and you'd be surprised about how much agreement people on different sides of the spectrum can come to if they are outside Washington.

          As for people that are concerned about a couple people being able to hijack the system.  It is possible for them to derail it, but only in the short term.  Very few people can stand to argue with people that will hear them out (and people's mic what there saying) in a peaceful manner, and then respectfully disagree.  Basically you can kill them with kindness.

          •  Scuse me? (1+ / 0-)
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            Now I'm the problem?  First John Lewis was the problem, now it's me.

            If you're going to run off your best supporters, there won't be a movement to speak of by next weekend.

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            by Kevvboy on Mon Oct 10, 2011 at 10:12:49 AM PDT

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            •  Go back and reread the post. (0+ / 0-)

              I never said you or John Lewis were the problems.  I said that the view that not letting John Lewis speak is wrong, does nothing but divide.  The goal of these protest is to unite.  We need to avoid partisanship at these protest.  We need them to be inclusive.  We need to discuss ideas, and get people involved.  It's the whole concept of the 99%.    The 99% by implication isn't partisan.  It's people who don't benefit by an unjust financial system, and that these systems harm people and the economy.

              Your entitled to your opinion about John Lewis and I fairly positive it's the exact same as mine.  Just because I understand why others have an opinion doesn't mean I agree with or disagree with.  It just means I understand it.  In the long run it's better to have people on our side than against us.

              •  Your last sentence (0+ / 0-)

                is my entire point.  The Atlanta people who debated away a chance to hear him speak are just too stupid to run a demonstration.

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                by Kevvboy on Mon Oct 10, 2011 at 04:59:12 PM PDT

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                •  Save your stupied for some one that cares. (0+ / 0-)

                  Take your hate somewhere else.

                  Didn't your mom ever tell you that if you didn't have something nice to say then don't say anything at all!

                  •  Yeah but my (0+ / 0-)

                    mom was not running a chat board dedicated to political discussion.  If the organizers in ATL are like you, the movement is doomed.

                    My only "hate" is stupidity which is rampant on but not exclusive to the other side.

                    But it is funny when someone misspells "stupid" as you did.

                    Still enjoying my stimulus package.

                    by Kevvboy on Tue Oct 11, 2011 at 04:54:00 AM PDT

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