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  •  Joe understands force. (0+ / 0-)

    Reid absolutely could have reined that toad in, but chose not to. The house blue dogs would have been tougher, but we could have made the effort.

    Corporations rule stealing money, legally. Time to take it back!

    by Diebold Hacker on Mon Oct 10, 2011 at 11:29:40 AM PDT

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    •  The Joe who got primaried and lost in 2006? (0+ / 0-)

      If he didn't understand that - and the evidence is that he got worse as a result - then everything Harry Reid could have done to him, multiplied by 10,000,000,000 and raised to the power 10,000,000,000 would have been ignored.

      Take away his gavel? Fine, he's now a proud member of the GOP caucus. And if you look at the record of Congressional votes - yes, it matters quite a bit. There were a number of 60-40 cloture votes.

      In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

      by blue aardvark on Mon Oct 10, 2011 at 03:34:38 PM PDT

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      •  That's the point. (0+ / 0-)

        Reid could have changed the rules of the Senate on day one, right? By a simple majority rule. Then tuck asshole Joe in the basement. If he wants to go join the R's, let him and good riddance.

        Before the session started there were a number of voices pleading with Reid to do exactly that.

        Corporations rule stealing money, legally. Time to take it back!

        by Diebold Hacker on Mon Oct 10, 2011 at 05:11:45 PM PDT

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        •  You say "change the rules of the Senate" (0+ / 0-)

          as though it were a trivial decision.

          In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

          by blue aardvark on Tue Oct 11, 2011 at 07:18:14 AM PDT

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          •  50 votes + Biden, yes. (0+ / 0-)

            I get that it would have been nearly impossible for this current batch of weak-kneed Dems to even consider. But there were plenty of people pointing out the benefits to doing so, and the dangers of not doing so. And it turns out that those people were correct. Again.

            Corporations rule stealing money, legally. Time to take it back!

            by Diebold Hacker on Tue Oct 11, 2011 at 11:32:33 AM PDT

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            •  And no negative consequences worth (0+ / 0-)

              considering. Because they've had these sorts of rules in place for 200+ years in one form or another, but there is no good reason for them.

              In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

              by blue aardvark on Tue Oct 11, 2011 at 12:36:03 PM PDT

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              •  Why do we need 60 votes these days? (0+ / 0-)

                And how long has that been the case?

                Corporations rule stealing money, legally. Time to take it back!

                by Diebold Hacker on Tue Oct 11, 2011 at 02:43:13 PM PDT

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                •  Since the 1950's (0+ / 0-)

                  Before that it was 67 ... out of 98. But filibusters were less common.

                  In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

                  by blue aardvark on Tue Oct 11, 2011 at 03:14:46 PM PDT

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