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  •  yep. But I was making the point that the whole (5+ / 0-)

    set up has become loaded in the other direction because of what happened in the 80s.  Like so many things -- if it's extreme one way, there's often a swing into the extreme on the other end.

    If, in our efforts to win, we become as dishonest as our opponents on the right, we don't deserve to triumph.

    by Tamar on Mon Oct 10, 2011 at 04:45:57 PM PDT

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    •  complicated (3+ / 0-)
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      LABobsterofAnaheim, Tamar, bablhous

      and I was glad  to see the point had been made, This is much more than an issue of no health insurance,   I work in an outpatient mental health setting, but I can tell you that inpatient psych unites are all dealing with the question of how to deal with those severely and persistently mentally ill who end up hospitalized when they become impaired enough to lose the ability to refuse treatment, but are guaranteed to stop showing up for outpatient appointments and go off their meds as soon as they're stable and discharged.   They are the people who might have been hospitalized against their will for  a very long time in the past and now end up as frequent flyers in psych hispitals, usually well known to most of the inpatient programs in a community.  It takes a judge to say that they can be forced to be medicated against their will.  And there are things that are good about that fact and things that are problematic. And yes, the cost of healthcare, the emphasis on reducing length of stay in most psych hospitals in part to save costs are all players, I'm sure.  But so is an attempt to preserve the rights of the most vulnerable among us.  How does a society balance the rights of the individual and the need for treatment when it is so evident?  I think this is one where there are no simple or comfortable answers.

      •  you describe the issues perfectly. eom (0+ / 0-)

        If, in our efforts to win, we become as dishonest as our opponents on the right, we don't deserve to triumph.

        by Tamar on Mon Oct 10, 2011 at 09:08:43 PM PDT

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