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  •  My favorite response is to drop something very (6+ / 0-)

    heavy, and in the silence after remind them that gravitation is also a theory. We can decribe its effects, we can calculate that effect to a degree capable of landing something the size of a golf cart on a mote hundreds of millions of miles away on a moving target, but we don't know really what it is or why it works, we can only measure it indirectly, (weight). So in spite of the fact that's its technically 'only' a theory, we're pretty darned sure it exists. That's a layman't thumbnail, of course, but it generally goes over pretty well. Or at least leaves them flummoxed. ;-)

    Information is abundant, wisdom is scarce. The Druid

    by FarWestGirl on Tue Oct 11, 2011 at 06:49:44 PM PDT

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    •  Yes, I use gravity too. (8+ / 0-)

      my barber was going on about how science does not really know how old fossils are. I mentioned carbon 14 dating. She said well, we really don't know about that either and won't for hundreds of year when can check today's results. It's all theory ...

      I then asked if she believes in gravity. Of course she does. Then I say, we know a lot more about carbon 14 dating than about gravity. She was stunned but did not know what to say other than well, we'll just have to wait and see.

      End of conversation.

      "There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats ..." - Kenneth Grahame -

      by RonK on Tue Oct 11, 2011 at 08:38:53 PM PDT

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      •  lol n/t (2+ / 0-)
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        Information is abundant, wisdom is scarce. The Druid

        by FarWestGirl on Wed Oct 12, 2011 at 03:51:06 AM PDT

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      •  Technical nitpick (2+ / 0-)
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        Carbon-14 dating is quite limited in its ability to establish the age of fossils due to the timespans involved. Other forms of radiometric dating are used when talking ages of millions or billions of years (14C has a half-life of about 5730 years, so it's going to be pretty much completely absent from anything over 50,000 years old).

        Banksters are harmful for the same reason neutrinos are harmless: neither are inclined to share what they've got (wealth and energy, respectively)

        by ebohlman on Wed Oct 12, 2011 at 05:49:13 PM PDT

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        •  Thanks for the information. (1+ / 0-)
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          there is nothing wrong with being acccurate and that's not being picky.
          Thanks.

          "There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats ..." - Kenneth Grahame -

          by RonK on Wed Oct 12, 2011 at 09:28:39 PM PDT

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