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  •  I don't recall any such request. (0+ / 0-)

    And I wouldn't honor it unless it were an order from the person who runs the website.  This is politics, and if I have the chance to speak up against a candidate that strikes me as objectionable before he actually becomes the party's nominee, why wouldn't I do that?

    But nobody's buying flowers from the flower lady.

    by Rich in PA on Tue Oct 11, 2011 at 07:25:16 AM PDT

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    •  Because it's been said 80 trillion times before (2+ / 0-)
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      Everyone gets it.  Purists want party purity.  And Blanche Lincoln losing her Senate race certainly strengthened the Democratic party, right?  

      Look at the 435 congressional seat maps and etail to me how you EVER plan to get this genuine Democratic majority without the help of people who don't agree 100% with the party platform.

      The country as a whole is neither as liberal or conservative as each party's platform lays things out.  Each side has to deal with deviations.  certainly the Deomcrats have done better tolerating deviations better than the GOP.

      •  I agree with your last line, and in the end, (0+ / 0-)

        it's going to make us a stronger party.

        There's certainly a point at which it wouldn't make sense for someone to be a Democrat, but I'm not sure at what point that is. The most annoying and/or conservative ones are usually with us on most votes, and even if they weren't, voting for our leadership is important by itself.

        My biggest peeve is when they go beyond showing their independence to the point where they are attacking the party. It's entirely unnecessary, at best, and ultimately damaging at worst. In fact, if there's one thing that I'd like them to work on, it's figuring out a better way to go about doing this. Hell, if need be, write down ten acceptable responses and pass them out to each party member in congress at the beginning of each session, with the threat of cutting off funding for their races if they slip up too many times.

    •  David has made the request on multiple occasions (0+ / 0-)

      it never goes anywhere.

    •  I'm not gonna put a gun to anyone's head (2+ / 0-)
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      But this debate has never really been productive, and I've said so many times. I've never seen anyone convince someone on the other side of the debate, and I've never seen a single new point get raised in this never-ending holy war. It's literally the same thing, every single time. And it usually only generates bad feelings, not greater erudition.

      But more importantly, the focus of Daily Kos Elections is to analyze what we think will happen, not what we want to happen. Whether Jonathan George's candidacy is a good thing for the Democratic Party or a bad thing for the Democratic Party doesn't really tell us whether he has a chance or not. At the end of the day, that's what DKos Elections is most concerned with.

      I'm actually all for having this debate as a matter of principal. I'd just prefer not to have it in the Daily Digest every time a conservative candidate gets mentioned. Fortunately, this is a darn big site and there are plenty of places where people will be more than happy to engage on the subject.

      Political Director, Daily Kos

      by David Nir on Tue Oct 11, 2011 at 10:19:50 AM PDT

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