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  •  I am continually amazed by (2+ / 0-)
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    satrap, ravagerofworlds2

    how people define themselves or others as "Christian" depending upon beliefs.

    I say a person is or is not a Christian depending upon whether that person lives and acts in accordance with the teachings of Jesus.

    A person can claim to believe anything, and a "community" of those who claim similar beliefs, but act variously and in contravention of their claimed beliefs, is no religion; it is little more than a low-tech Facebook group.

    So it matters not a whit which religion, if any, someone claims as his or her own.  That's all chatter.  Whether a Mormon is a Christian is a debate amongst angels dancing on pins.

    But tipped for a very thought-provoking diary.

    "Quiero morir siendo esclavo de los principios, no de los hombres." Emiliano Zapata

    by penguins4peace on Tue Oct 11, 2011 at 02:09:47 PM PDT

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      You are taking the approach Christ advocates in Matthew 7:15-16 (knowing someone based on what they do, not what they say).

      My grandfather was never baptized. He lived a good life, he helped neighbors, he stood up for minorities in the 1940s and 1950s because he saw all men and women as brothers and sisters of humanity. One time, a coworker who was black had his paycheck stolen by someone else on the all white construction crew. My grandfather split his paycheck with the man, and when word spread, it never happened again. The workers on that crew respected my grandfather, and knew that he would split his paycheck again with the black man so he could feed his family. This was in the early 1940s in Nebraska. No one in my family knows whether my grandfather was a Christian, but he sure as hell acted like one should in an era where racism was more prevalent and in many places, institutionally reinforced.

      Above Grecian mantles were chiseled these words... Know Thyself... Nothing in Excess... the pop philosophy of its day.

      by ravagerofworlds2 on Tue Oct 11, 2011 at 08:57:21 PM PDT

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      •  Here is the kernel of this thread. (2+ / 0-)
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        This is a Best Comment.

        For what it's worth, my maternal grandfather was also EXACTLY like that.

        It is a calling...to do things about injustice.... It helps to have a goal. I've always tried to have one.--Ted Kennedy, True Compass

        by Timaeus on Wed Oct 12, 2011 at 12:35:18 AM PDT

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