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  •  Actually, Christians were Jews until they decided (4+ / 0-)
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    they weren't.  i.e., they decided not to follow Jewish law, in regards to things like keeping kosher, or (of particular importance when converting adult male Romans) circumcision.  

    But this was not automatic from the beginning; Christianity originally functioned as a sect of Judaism.

    So in a way it's far more complicated in the case of Mormonism, because the Mormons say they are Christian.  Where is the line?  Who gets to decide?  

    There have always been people claiming that the "other" Christian isn't truly Christian.  There are still Protestants who say Catholics aren't Christian, even though for over a millenium, Catholics were the only Christians in Europe.

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      Paul's apostolic journey was to bring the message to gentiles. One of the biggest early problems was whether Gentiles had to convert to Judaism in terms of Old Testament laws regarding dietary issues (and circumcision).

      Jews however, do not regard Christianity as anything close to Judaism, and still pine for their Messiah to come. However, Judaism -> Christianity -> Islam is the usual progression of Monotheism versions. The same cannot be said for Mormonism as an offshoot of Christianity (since it is not actually monotheistic, but polytheistic).

      Above Grecian mantles were chiseled these words... Know Thyself... Nothing in Excess... the pop philosophy of its day.

      by ravagerofworlds2 on Tue Oct 11, 2011 at 08:27:37 PM PDT

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      •  Details, details, details :-P (0+ / 0-)

        There have been way more "offshoots of Christianity" over the centuries than most people know about. Some of them hung around just long enough to be denounced and stamped out as "heresies" - others, particularly when their adherents developed in or made tracks for the hinterlands, lasted for centuries (a few even to the present day, though usually in greatly changed form).

        The first major "offshoot of Christianity" was in fact the Roman Catholic Church itself, which split with the Orthodox Church over doctrinal disputes that included whether Rome or Constantinople should be pre-eminent (guess who preferred which, and why).

        Strictly speaking, Christianity itself is at least somewhat polytheistic, what with that "three in one, one in three" god that is and is not separate entities (instant migraine headache), and the Mother of God (who gave birth to God but isn't part of God) and all those saints and angels and whatnot.

        Someone said, and rightly so, that Christianity has become a religion about Christ instead of the religion of Christ.

        If it's
        Not your body
        Then it's
        Not your choice
        AND it's
        None of your damn business!

        by TheOtherMaven on Thu Oct 13, 2011 at 01:47:29 PM PDT

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        •  disagree (0+ / 0-)

          no- Christianity is not polytheistic. Trinitarian doctrine is absolute- what the human mind cannot understand is taken as a mystery. But no Trinitarian believes in multiple deities- there is one Everliving God, composed of three distinct parts as revealed in Scripture.

          Would you call someone with split-personalities many persons, or the same person with a fractured consciousness? This is also a poor analogy, as the God of Christianity is by definition perfect.

          Above Grecian mantles were chiseled these words... Know Thyself... Nothing in Excess... the pop philosophy of its day.

          by ravagerofworlds2 on Fri Oct 14, 2011 at 12:48:46 PM PDT

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