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  •  the center for inquiry might sue- (20+ / 0-)

    but I doubt that Dawkins will- 1. He prefers to use his immense knowledge of biology and logical skills rather than the courts. 2) If he sued for this kind of thing, he wold spend his entire life in court.  Religous bigotry is omnipresent.

    As my father used to say,"We have the best government money can buy."

    by BPARTR on Thu Oct 13, 2011 at 11:35:36 AM PDT

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    •  The CFI (10+ / 0-) the injured party.  I do hope they sue.

      America, we can do better than this...

      by Randomfactor on Thu Oct 13, 2011 at 12:32:29 PM PDT

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      •  Yes, it is a legitimate suit (10+ / 0-)

        They've found a new location, but any reduction in room capacity or guest convenience could damage the fundraising purpose of the evening.

        And, since the club does rent to outside parties, it is required to do so without discrimination:

        Richard Dawkins Event Banned by Michigan Country Club

        In a phone call to CFI–Michigan Assistant Director Jennifer Beahan, The Wyndgate’s representative explained that the owner did not wish to associate with individuals such as Dawkins, or his philosophies.

         Although privately owned, The Wyndgate facilities are open to the public for special events and occasions. According to Title II of the Federal Civil Rights Law of 1964, “open to the public” means “all persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.”

        Why is there a Confederate Flag flying in Afghanistan?

        by chimpy on Thu Oct 13, 2011 at 01:30:30 PM PDT

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        •  I feel the same, especially if Nazis want to (0+ / 0-)

          speak at the Jewish Community Center.

          "You can die for Freedom, you just can't exercise it"

          by shmuelman on Thu Oct 13, 2011 at 03:20:32 PM PDT

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          •  If nothing else is scheduled, ... (1+ / 0-)
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            ... and if the Nazis are willing to accept a quote that includes a budget for security, to cover the obvious protests and counter-protests, then maybe the JCC might as well rent out the hall. Especially if its managers saw some value in keeping dangerous people where they can be found. But still, that's just a maybe.

            Something like a JCC, or a church basement, or a meeting room at the union hall, are built and operated for the benefit of a particular group. If I were responsible for the maintenance of church property, for example, I might choose to let the place go empty instead of hosting a group that advocated deportation or extermination of my faith's followers. Not only would I find their philosophy distasteful, but I would have a reasonable fear for the safety of the building and its religious items.

            The country club in question is required to operate within the provisions of Civil Rights Law Title II, so they have no such choice.

            Why is there a Confederate Flag flying in Afghanistan?

            by chimpy on Thu Oct 13, 2011 at 04:01:53 PM PDT

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        •  Is Atheism a Religion? (0+ / 0-)

          Once I picked up a book from India about religion and in a pie chart representing the range of religions, Atheism was included.

          In other words, atheism was included as a valid category among all the approaches to religion.

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