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  •  Things are going to get very ugly (6+ / 0-)

    if our rights to petition corruption is overruled by some corrupt corporate sucking politician.

    I am saying this because I look at history and see how desperate people act.

    I am saying this because I look at what just happened around the world and you'll see that permission is not really needed.

    Any regrets that they fired all those police?

    Separation of Church and State AND Corporation

    by Einsteinia on Thu Oct 13, 2011 at 02:16:40 PM PDT

    •  MLK, Gandhi, Montgomery Bus Boycott, etc. etc. (8+ / 0-)

      had their hard times, their times of despair, desperation.  Over periods of years and years.  This part of our struggle has been going on for a couple of weeks.  

      They held fast to the principles of non-violence and civil disobedience.  

      And they won.

      I look at history and see how desperate people like these folks have won through non-violent civil disobedience.  

      Are we less capable of the courage they showed us? Are we less capable of patience?  

      Hold fast.  

      •  Exactly Right (3+ / 0-)
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        Old Gardener, Matt Z, blueoasis

        But what happens when Ghandi's "mob" gets removed in an ugly  "Tiananmen Square" maneuver?

        We don't give up, but things get ugly

        Separation of Church and State AND Corporation

        by Einsteinia on Thu Oct 13, 2011 at 03:11:27 PM PDT

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        •  Then OWS shows the world its courage (6+ / 0-)
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          Einsteinia, elwior, Matt Z, blueoasis, poco, DawnN

          and commitment to non-violent protest and civil disobedience, and gains respect.  

          Ugly?  Awful to watch.  But we bear witness and honor those on Wall Street who are suffering for us all.  

          Most Americans didn't get the civil rights movement at all at first when they watched it on their black and white TVs.  Who are these disruptive, disobedient, "uppity" people?  Probably Communists.  People who don't know their place.
          But the protesters "kept their eyes on the prize" and public opinion began to change.  

          Americans started to ask different questions: Who are these white women screaming hate at children?  What kind of police do they have in those southern states that turn vicious dogs on young people who can't protect themselves?  Who are these hateful people and isn't there a mayor or a police chief or a governor who can control them?  Why are white people coming from the north to risk their safety and their lives to stand with them?

          Ugly.  Yes.  Can it work?  Yes.  

          Best wishes to you,


      •  Wonder if there are hotels or homes/apts. (3+ / 0-)
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        poco, elwior, Einsteinia

        people could stay at?  They could be close to the action with a base place to sleep - then return in shifts.

        It's probably not workable, and I confess I have never been to NYC...

        Why not try sharing space inside as we do our best to force the most greedy to learn to share too!

        Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what a people will submit to, and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both.

        The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.
        - Frederick Douglass

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