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  •  Bush uses the "dog-whistle" (3.66)
    every time he lets loose with another "is our children learning" type of statement.  We laugh and his followers think, "yep, there goes those elitists again."  

    We laugh at Bush for his stupidity and his followers take it personally.  Talk about your stupid pet tricks.  The dumber Bush acts, the more loyal his base becomes.  For Bush to ever approach an issue intelligently would be simply bad politics, for him.

    •  "yep there goes them elitists again" (none)

      "Gravity always wins."

      by Renegade Prole on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 01:06:07 PM PST

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      •  Yes, this is Bush's schtik (none)
        The puzzling phrases, mangled grammar, and simplistic circularity of Bush's rhetoric are parts of a comprehensive, populist image the Rove team has crafted for public consumption.
        •  as long as you feel you could (none)
          sit down and have a beer with the guy, that should be the determinate factor in whether or not he has the authority to push the big red button.  I have to hand it to Rove,  he really has his hand on the pulse of Reactionairy America.  But is it really that hard?  Isn't it what marketing execs have been doing for decades?  

          We buy more useless shit than any country so it should be no surprise that we bought the useless piece of crap now residing at 1600 Penn. Ave.

          "Gravity always wins."

          by Renegade Prole on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 01:26:42 PM PST

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      •  Or he could have said (none)
        something like this.

        "I'm fascinated by rap and by hip-hop. I think there's a lot of poetry in it. There's a lot of anger, a lot of social energy in it, and I think you'd better listen to it pretty carefully, 'cause it's important."

        How is education supposed to make me feel smarter? Besides, every time I learn something new, it pushes some old stuff out of my brain.

        homer

    •  Anti Intellectualism (none)
      To look through the reductionistic lense of religion is really an easy way to perceive the world. Deconstructs alot of the complexity that is out there. Our President speaks in that language. We on the other hand say, "Hey it is not that simple moron."

      Well when we did have a smart, uber intellectual in the White House he betrayed the trust of the American people. Clinton's foibles hurt smart people and Democrats in immeasurable ways.

      FYI--Hillary is about the only Clintonite that has gone on to win bc she hasn't had to address the 900 lb gorilla in the room.

      She is going to win the primary and go don in the general. Sweetness.

      •  I don't see anything wrong... (none)
        with saying it the easy way and doing it the hard way. Just because you can melt a campaign platform down to one sentence/phrase doesn't mean the whole law has to be that way. That is why we elect representatives. They are there to turn the ideas we support (simple) into reality (messy).
    •  He has to (none)
      Born in CT....part of the Bush dynasty...son of a former president...Yale...inherited wealth...multiple failed businesses do nothing to hurt him...draft dodging...

      Stick him on a fake ranch, have him mangle some speech, wear a cowboy hat and twang the speech a bit. Presto! Your GOP fortunate son is now a populist "man of the people".

      The world's address
      a place that's worn
      a sad pun that reflects a sadder mess
      In case you haven't already guessed:
      The world's a dress.

      by Jaiwithani on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 01:54:49 PM PST

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    •  Good example (none)
      Whenever he acts stupid, stupid people think he is one of them. But people who aren't stupid nonetheless give him a pass. Why?

      Because there's a bit more to it. The language he uses is hypnotic lanugage. It is NLP. What is NLP? It is Lakoff on steroids: NLP was created by a mad-scientist psychologist and a mad-scientist linguist in the 1970's. They lifted the best of from Milton Erickson, Virginia Satir, and Fritz Perls. They discovered that even though emotional (unconscious/hypnotic) lanugage appears to be gobbeldygook, it has a linguistic structure, although one very different from logical conscious language. They studied it, mapped it out, and put it to use in theraputic and sales/marketing contexts.

      I've been trained in NLP. It is an attitude more than a set of techniques, and if you have the attitude-- presumptiveness and bold-faced ability to lie completely congruently-- the stuff works wonders. It can be used to help people who are suffering (from phobias or PTSD or schizophrenia), or to make a lot of money (i.e. Tony Robbins), or... to win elections. Bush and Rove have the attitude. I wouldn't be surprised if Bush Jr. and/or Bush Sr. have been trained by Bandler. Bandler and Grinder both did work for the CIA.

      Hypnotic language is neither new nor bad, I might add. Dr. King was a master of hypnotic lanugage and it's all over his most famous speeches-- preachers have always tended to be at or near the highest state of the art in speaking to the emotional, unconscious mind. In earlier times, we called it "charisma", but it's basically hypnosis.

      I hear classic snippets of hypnotic lanugage all over Bush's speeches. I don't know whether he learned it from Bandler, or from his dad, or from all them fundamentalist bible-thumpin' preachers down there in Texas, or just some innate skill, but the man knows his stuff.

      It'd be funny to get a couple NLP'ers together to sit down and map out a Bush speech or off-the-cuff word-salad answer. "Unspecified referential index! Scope ambiguity! Phonological ambiguity! Damn, there's another one!" I think the study of NLP (http://www.purenlp.com) has huge potential both for understanding what the right wing is doing, and, more importantly, arming us to be able to fight back... and win.

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