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  •  See, this is the problem... (0+ / 0-)

    ...Whether or not you want to admit it, Abortion is a really tough issue for most Americans.  At some point between a sperm/egg and a baby is a long, slow developmental path.  Somewhere in that path, the blob of cells becomes a real person with the same rights to life, liberty and the persuit of happiness as its mother.

    People differ on where that line is crossed.  Some say it is at conception, others say it's when the baby is willingly birthed and completely out of the mother.  Most people struggle with the issue and think it's somewhere in the middle.  To thorw F-bombs at anyone who thinks the answer is somewhere in the middle only serves to alienate independent voters.

    No one is saying these women can't get their abortions.  What the law is saying is that if I want to start my own hospital with my own money and people can volunteer to come to my hospital, than who's business is it where I define where life begins?  What ever happened to getting the Feds out of a womb.  It's a private hospital.  It's a choice, right?

    Besides, we're not talking about putting a woman to death by firing squad.  It's a question of balancing the right of the baby with the mother.  It's a difficult issue and deserves a serious debate, without F-Bombs and hyperbole.

    •  so, other kinds of gratuitous death for women (1+ / 0-)
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      enhydra lutris

      are okay with you I guess.

      what that law says is it is OKAY - there will be no punishment - for a hospital or doctor to leave a woman who needs an abortion in order to LIVE - for that hospital to just let her die

      •  Letting women die for no reason is already... (0+ / 0-)

        ...illegal, and will continue to be.  This just says that the hospital can make a judgement to save/protect the unborn child while putting the mother at risk, which is perfectly OK to do once the child is outside the mother.  It also further protects religious hospitals from being forced to perform voluntary abortions that could be done elsewhere.  That's the real issue here, not the one or two women each year who fit your narrow circumstances.

        From their perspective, it's a judgement call between savings two lives.  This is hardly gratuitous death for women.  But they would argue that abortion is gratuitous death for the womb.  That kind of rhetoric goes both ways.  

        Somewhere along the line, the fetus becomes a baby, and that baby has rights.  It's an important issue that you will lose every time with your inflamatory F-bombs and hyperbole.

    •  btw, NO it doesnt...not legally until BIRTH (0+ / 0-)
      Somewhere in that path, the blob of cells becomes a real person with the same rights to life, liberty and the persuit of happiness as its mother.

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