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  •  It's not that they didn't use their (6+ / 0-)
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    skills and ingenuity to get it in the first place (many of them did), it's that they're older, and they're so damned fearful of losing anything because they're afraid they WON'T be able to replace it.

    When you're 25, 35, 45, you know you can start over again and likely be able to get most of it back. When you're 55, 65, 75 - you know that's not possible.

    And so you become more and more fearful that somebody will take away some of your stuff.

    They're hoarders. They don't even know what they have, and it doesn't matter if they need it or not. They don't want anybody to even TOUCH what's theirs.

    Take a look at most of them - it's not a surprise that most of them are older. They're not worried about the future. They don't understand half the stuff that's happening now, nor where things are going, nor how they're going to be able to use any of it. Nor do they WANT to.

    •  You're talking about the Silent Gen'ers (6+ / 0-)

      and people don't want to hear it, but we are in a generational war.  There's only one age demographic that gave John McCain a landslide, and it's people from the early Boom and the Silent Gen.  There's only one age demographic that is always voting Teabagger.  I do not collectively blame this whole group, because there are many good people from it, progressives and family even. But I also know very much the archetype of which you speak.  

      Not nearly as noble or as classy as the GI Generation; sure as hell going to pretend like it because they hate the youth.  I notice a lot of them own sportscars and luxury vehicles--what the fuck good do those do? Fulfill some teenage dream? I just want a well-made car (which is not a Lexus).  I worked in areas concentrated with retirees--and after interacting with a few thousands customers in several states, you begin to notice a few things.

      We're going to continue to be in a generational war.  I have nothing against our idealists who urge us to appeal to the better in people, for our own sake as well as for the few souls converted. But these older Teabagger-sympathizers are whipped up with crypto-racist and even racist drivel, economic paranoia, and absolute hostility towards Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi. They will never support a progressive agenda. How could they? They are absolutely anathema to the current one and they will be dead before the next generation of it.

      We're going to suffer and long and hard because of their psychosis.

      "Hahai nō ka ua i ka ululā'au" -- Hawaiian proverb.

      John Boehner? The sleaze bucket who hands out bribes from big tobacco on the House floor?

      by Nulwee on Sun Oct 16, 2011 at 12:02:55 PM PDT

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      •  Which diary were you reading? (0+ / 0-)

        I missed the part about this being a generational war.

        •  I read the diary called reality man. (2+ / 0-)
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          Look at the exit polling numbers.

          The generational war is part of the class war.  The propaganda machine is manipulating and scaring our elders into supporting an agenda that is the worst for them.  Social security? Death panels?

          I'm sorry, where have you been for the last three years?

          "Hahai nō ka ua i ka ululā'au" -- Hawaiian proverb.

          John Boehner? The sleaze bucket who hands out bribes from big tobacco on the House floor?

          by Nulwee on Sun Oct 16, 2011 at 12:53:58 PM PDT

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          •  I despise cowardly elders who claim to be (3+ / 0-)
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            "the brave" living in the "home of the brave." What shit.
            And I'm pushing elderly status myself, ffs.

            #OccupyWallStreet ~ Close the ca$ino that
            CONTINUES to gamble away our future!
            MY country is the one that cares.

            by OleHippieChick on Sun Oct 16, 2011 at 12:57:48 PM PDT

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            •  OHC, if you are approaching elderly status (0+ / 0-)

              you can't fare well in a generational war, since age is the only metric it calls for; even if you do despise small minded cowards.

              •  I can't agree. I will fare well because (2+ / 0-)
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                I am prepared. I'm 63 and a Yogi. I am not greedy, I live small. Our house is paid off, I'm already collecting SocSec, I still work, although the formal job will be dumped early next year, thank K-reist, even though I'll lose the medical insurance. That's how bad this job is, corporatist swine posing as a Humane Society. They sold us, their employees, like chattel to a staffing company, which could pull a piss test at any time and, since I'm a fan of the sacred herb, I would fail.
                :-PP

                BFD. Me and my friend Terry, also a Yogi, are already moonlighting as personal assistants, getting ready to gear up to full-time as soon as we dump the authoritarian lizard people masquerading as a warm/fuzzy Society. All our acquaintances are progressives, we protest together and try to do right by people.

                I could be 100 and never change sides or fall prey to the fear and propaganda. I know too much.

                So I'm not really getting what you mean by not faring well. :-D Unless you kids are coming for me, then I'll either walk your dog or kick you in the neck, your choice.

                #OccupyWallStreet ~ Close the ca$ino that
                CONTINUES to gamble away our future!
                MY country is the one that cares.

                by OleHippieChick on Sun Oct 16, 2011 at 02:15:40 PM PDT

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          •  Oh, "reality", not Laurence Lewis. (1+ / 0-)
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            You do know (certainly, since you dwell in reality) that only the elderly eclipse the young in terms of poverty in the United States. So your chances of living at poverty or below are phenomenal if you are very young or very old.
            Ignorance doesn't own an age group, on the other hand. Many of the newly elected congresscritters in 2010 were young, and nearly to a person, they reject the idea that climate change is a reality.
            Where do they fit in your scenario of "generational warfare"?

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