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  •  Engineers know how to research (0+ / 0-)

    Engineers on average take far more science and experimental classes than English or liberal art majors, they are well-versed on how to do scientific research.

    I'm not in college anymore(graduated 2006) so I don't have access to college stats anymore so I can only come up with internet links(I will try to find some from specific schools) but from that link, the average business salary(both starting and mid-career) are higher than those who major in English by a significant margin.

    I don't really trust sites like that and payscale because they are self-reported. You keep on referring to payscale, its a very unreliable source as people who can't find a job or are below the mean many times don't report. I looked at actual stats my university had while I was there and LAS on average was the lowest of the major colleges.

    If your seriously using payscale or students review instead of college stats, your not getting an accurate picture of how much people are making.

    •  Research in an information economy (0+ / 0-)

      And I don't buy it anyway. I'm well versed in our databases on campus and there's a world of difference between the elsevier provides to scientists and what it provides to others. The model for scientists is a couple page extract, while in the Humanities we get books. I'm talking about culling information.

      You link to student - review which is self-reported, and you ignore payscale which is the most reputable source around. As for individual colleges, they don't do a great job but even if they did, you'd only know about individual colleges, not the aggregate. It's the best source around, and it's even used by higher administration in the R1 university where I teach. It's the best source they have, and the school actually pays for their services.

      There are two kinds of people in this world. The kind who divide the world into two kinds of people, and the kind who don't.

      by upstate NY on Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 06:36:13 PM PDT

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