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  •  Are you actually saying (8+ / 0-)

    that there is no such thing as an unjust law?  

    Like laws that make it illegal for people who have no home to sleep in a public park?  Do you have any idea what it must be like to try to live a life in which literally anywhere you can sleep is illegal?  

    •  Ah no, that'd be your faulty strawman argument (4+ / 0-)

      I do realize that the homeless have a really rough time of it. For the last 15 years, in every community I've landed in, I've used the skills I've learned over my lifetime to be a leader in helping the homeless in my community.

      But that doesn't mean that I don't understand the reasons why camping overnight in parks is against the law.

      The right for you to exert your freedom stops when it bumps up against my nose. The right of any one person or any one group to be on public property has to be weighed against the rights of every other citizen of an area. Often, when that calculus is made, the rights of the non-protesting citizens to have a quiet neighborhood in the evening, with enough police available to help them out if they need them, rather than cops too busy making sure that the homeless and protesters camping out in closed parks are safe.

      There are plenty of unjust laws. However, reasonable limitations on protesters via the court-determined time, place and manner restrictions aren't unjust. They're fair to everyone. They wisely balance the rights of people to protest versus the rights of the non-protesters to live their lives, drive on their roads that were designed for cars, not for parades of protesters, use local parks for their intended uses most of the time with limited times when select groups can take over those areas, etc, etc.

      •  Talk about (5+ / 0-)

        cognitive dissonance.  

        From this

        I've used the skills I've learned over my lifetime to be a leader in helping the homeless in my community.

        to this

        The right for you to exert your freedom stops when it bumps up against my nose. The right of any one person or any one group to be on public property has to be weighed against the rights of every other citizen of an area. Often, when that calculus is made, the rights of the non-protesting citizens to have a quiet neighborhood in the evening, with enough police available to help them out if they need them, rather than cops too busy making sure that the homeless and protesters camping out in closed parks are safe.

        Hahahahahahaha!  Oh dear Molly, you are just too funny for your own good.  And to think that you might even believe that crap you just wrote down up there.

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