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    WV and KY are definitely important.

    I changed by not changing at all, small town predicts my fate, perhaps that's what no one wants to see. -6.38, -4.15

    by James Allen on Tue Oct 25, 2011 at 08:56:01 AM PDT

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      But we won WV and are killing it in KY.  

      The KY Dem bench for McConnell and Paul's Senate seats is stocked.  We just need to make sure none of them has a "Patton scandal" and unifies around a candidate (yes, even if it's Mongiardo) and takes both of them down for their next respective elections.

      The OH vote lays out a dialogue for OH for all races in 2012.  I actually don't see a huge lose-lose proposition.  If we win and over-turn, doesn't that fuel Brown and Obama in Ohio with their focus on turning back this issue and the people who supported it.  And if it somehow loses, doesn't that give ammo to Brown and Obama to hammer Mandel and RomPerryCain over this issue?

      •  I think and hope Mongiardo is done (1+ / 0-)
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        as we know Steve Beshear got a new lt gov starting in 2011. Grimes, Edelen, Conway, Chandler or even possibly Beshear himself if he will run would be fine for the senate seats.

      •  SouthernINDem said that (0+ / 0-)

        from 1992 to the mid 2000's, the KY Dem Party was in slow decline and McConnell led the KY GOP to prominence.  The consequences of this was Paul Patton only barely being elected in 1995, the Democrats losing the State Senate in 1998, and finally with Republicans winning three statewide offices in 2003.  This was reversed halfway through Fletcher's term as Lexington and the Bluegrass regions turned left (they were traditionally moderate Republicans) and Dem.  Aided by a scandal plaguing the Republicans, Democrats pushed back and won the Governor's office back in 2007 and are now poised to win back even more.

        'An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.' -Mahatma Gandhi

        by KingofSpades on Tue Oct 25, 2011 at 11:41:17 AM PDT

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    •  Well, okay, then so are Loiusiana and Mississippi (0+ / 0-)

      Louisiana is important because it's going to set up Bobby Jindal nicely to get past his horrible speech of 2009 and become a national candidate for the Republicans in either 2016 or 2020.

      Mississippi, becuase it will show if the increase in AA population might give Dems more of a chance in the future.

      But this is also my way of saying that I don't think any of these races (WV, KY, LA or MS) are all that important, at least for 2012 purposes (we're not going to win any of these states in the general). Ohio is important, because it's going to show the power of labor, what happens when you have an unpopular governor, and it's a swing state for 2012.

      •  Jindal is DOA (1+ / 0-)
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        Maybe he gets named to some 2nd tier cabinet post should a Repub win in 2016, but he seriously has nowhere to go from here in the GOP on a national level.

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          Why do you say that. He's considered by Republicans to be a successful governor, he's a former Rhodes scholar and he's non-white. In fact, I think Romney will seriously consider him for VP if he wins the nomination.

          Are you just talking about his disasterous answer to Obama in 2009? Because keep in mind that there was a guy who made a horrible nominating speech in 1988 for Michael Duakakis, was written off by everyone, and went on to become Bill Clinton. Those kind of things can be overcome with time.

          I don't have any fondness for Jindal - I think a lot of his policies are tragic for Louisiana -  but I don't know why you're so quick to write him off.

          •  He's done nothing (0+ / 0-)

            And he's widely regarded mainly for being a smart non-white in the GOP.  This is pretty much exactly what the GOP doesn't seem to want.

            I have no diea how him being non-white helps the GOP.  Will it translate single vote, of course not.  He doesn't balance the ticket, as he's not really seen as a Southerner in any way.  He is not charasmatic at all and has never really been challenged by anything in his political races.

            If anyone picks Jindal as running mate I'd simply laugh out loud.  Especially Romney; a Mormon and an Indian will not do well to drive GOP turnout in the south where they are still clamoring for Rick perry and Michelle Bachmann to have a baby and name it Jesus.

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