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  •  That is a misunderstanding (0+ / 0-)

    The EXPLICIT logic of the Constitution is designed to prevent ANY minority OR majority FACTION from ruling in their self-interest - and it hoped to ensure a government that sought and achieved in practice an existence more and more in accordance with the principles of the common good and justice.

    This was their EXPLICIT theoretical starting assumption.  That those two interrelated and interdependent ends are the SOLE legitimate ends of government.

    •  I'm a little slow on the uptake at the moment, (0+ / 0-)

      what does the constitution have to do with whether or not the framers would be supporting OWS?

      Moderation in most things.

      by billmosby on Fri Oct 28, 2011 at 04:08:57 PM PDT

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      •  The principles and ideals - in part (0+ / 0-)

        - at least in terms of the structure/function and end of government - are laid out and established in the Constitution.

        Thus one can assume that it is a means of understanding what its "framers" would think about things.

        Who are the "framers" - is another question.

        Clearly James Madison is the principle architect.  So I think you can tell a lot about Madison from the Constitution - so long as you recognize what he did not approve or like in the compromises - and understand it from his fundamental starting point.

        There are generally two other groups that can be considered from those who were participants in drafting it - those who fundamentally agreed with Madison on all key points - and those who had much in common but had substantive objections to the idea of the National Constitution.

        Many of the latter compromised - but a few rejected it entirely.

        So we have to be careful in making claims for "the framerS" (plural).

        Then we can also look to others who were not in Philadelphia - who played a role in guiding what happened there - and also those who were instrumental on the ratification (and those who opposed the ratification - i.e. Patrick Henry).

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