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  •  TP = Kool Aid Party (16+ / 0-)

    How can I stand with someone who will not stand with me?  If we are at the ramparts of the Bastille and the TP is busy re-charging the cannon to fire into the crowd behind them instead of into the royal troops facing them, how can I be expected to find common ground?

    Today is Sunday the day when pundits emerge from under their rocks to see if they see their shadows or not.  The TP representatives I am hearing are opposing OWS and are actively denying that there is such a thing as income inequity in this country.

    Yep, this appears to be well documented but TP members, some of whom appear to be in the top 90%-99% appear to be publicly doubting that there is such a thing as income inequity.  No need to raise the minimum wage, no need for unions, no need for a social security net and etc.  Where is the common ground for me with these people?

    •  We can't confuse... (9+ / 0-)

      ...the Tea Party on TV with the millions of actual voters who showed up in the 2010 elections. The TV networks will show who they want us to see.

      Just like "Progressives" can't be summed up or spoken for by (let's say) Donna Brazile.

      We need to reach out to "Tea Party" voters. Not the paid pundits and activists.

      (One way to do this is to change our language a little. I loved your Bastille reference. But it might have been cooler if you had invoked Lexington, 1775 instead of Paris, 1789. Conservatives notices stuff like that. The message is the same, but it helps a little more in terms of outreach.)

      •  My boss is tp (8+ / 0-)

        as are a few relatives.  They are not reasonable and all want things opposite of what I want. They stick up for the moneyed powers and everything they want to do to the US economy.  The only thing we really agree on is that things are srewed up.  Their solutions are more of the same.  They are blaming poor people getting mortgages, poor people on assistance, affirmative action, etc.  I am blaming the 1%.  That is huge gap to bridge.

        And she's good at appearing sane, I just want you to know. Winwood/Capaldi

        by tobendaro on Sun Oct 30, 2011 at 07:48:50 AM PDT

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        •  Are you saying that... (0+ / 0-)

          ...10-30% of the US electorate is "not reasonable" and "...stick up for the moneyed powers"?

          That is tens of millions of people.

          Maybe you are right. Many people believe strange things. But I can't think it's that hopeless.

    •  Media representation may not be representative. (3+ / 0-)
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      We all know the fair & balanced game.

      What's the incentive for For-Profit media to broadcast an interview with a Tea Partier who breaks the narrative?  Since the Tea Party is being run top-down as an anti-progressive, pro-corporate group, isn't the pressure on media outlets to conform to their wishes by conforming to the narrative?

      Re: standing with someone who won't stand with you, it isn't fun.  But in the street, in person, telling someone that cracks the armor.  Whenever two protests meet, this is the strategy to follow: "I'm not against you, I'm with you.  I want both of us to benefit from socialism, because we're the ones who need it, not those rich pricks." etc.  Lets you redefine socialism and establish unity.  Then things can change.  Some people keep shouting at you, but some will start a conversation, and the wall cracks a little.

      The rich are eating the world. The Republicans are their teeth. The Democrats are dentists who refuse to pull those teeth because they are so beautiful and sharp.

      by Leftcandid on Sun Oct 30, 2011 at 07:12:43 AM PDT

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