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  •  as a very smart person once told me (3+ / 0-)
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    "if you want a guarantee, buy a washing machine, otherwise get to work."

    "Rules must be binding. Violations must be punished. Words must mean something." President Obama in Prague on April 5

    by jlynne on Sun Oct 30, 2011 at 07:23:37 AM PDT

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    •  My price is cheap... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...and orders of magnitude less steep than what the Tea Party will ask for in their opening position.

      •  it applies to both sides (1+ / 0-)
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        if we are going to put a price on our willingness to participate, we will end up sidelined.  

        "Rules must be binding. Violations must be punished. Words must mean something." President Obama in Prague on April 5

        by jlynne on Sun Oct 30, 2011 at 07:27:14 AM PDT

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        •  I wonder if there's been an outreach... (4+ / 0-)
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          To get local tea party groups to visit occupy sites. Might be something to talk about at the next general assembly wherever you are.

          (Though as someone whose total participation in Occupy has been bringing around some meals and hanging in the back during assemblies, I'm trying not to give any advice. Things are certainly moving right along without my input.)

          •  I talked to a young man for about an hour (2+ / 0-)
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            at an Occupy gathering a couple of weeks ago. He seemed quite progressive. He then told me that he had been a Tea Party member when it first started, but quit when he realized it was being taken over by people who had a different agenda. We continued to talk, and he said although he liked Ron Paul, he didn't agree completely with him. Where we disagreed was on so-called "entitlement programs" -- his problem with them was that we can't afford them and that they could be changed for younger people over time without a lot of pain involved. He worked at a local business for probably $9 an hour. I asked him how his saving for retirement was going....crickets. I didn't think to ask him if he had good insurance coverage. He was quite bright and I hope he continues to do Occupy meetings and keep his mind open.

            "We don't see things as they are, we see things as we are." Anais Nin

            by SuWho on Sun Oct 30, 2011 at 12:22:16 PM PDT

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        •  There's more than one side, here... (0+ / 0-)

          ...and some of the sides bring more natural advantages to the table than others.  If this coalition indeed needs the cooperation of people with profound disagreements with parts of the larger progressive landscape, then certain agreements must be reached.  Otherwise, we have very little to discuss.

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