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  •  The courts do not? (8+ / 0-)

    When have these specific new laws been challenged in court?  That's what the OP's point was all about: these should be challenged, and challenged hard.

    When one cannot vote without a specific ID, and in order to get that ID one has to pay $15 for a copy of their birth certificate, as Rachel Maddow cited in one example last night, then that's specifically designed to keep poor people, who can't afford to pay for that copy, from voting.  When teachers are facing $1000 fines for helping their 18 year old students to register to vote, the law inflicting that punishment is specifically crafted to prevent people from voting.

    •  Indiana's law was upheld by SCOTUS in 2008 (7+ / 0-)


      You can challenge them as applied to particular people, but that very example cited by Maddow was before the Court in 2008, and rejected.

      •  Anti-ALEC Movement needed. (7+ / 0-)
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        But, hey, both parties owned, sadly and shame on us.

        Now our kids are risking life and limb occupying to undo the damage our apathy has allowed to happen.

        Sorry if the truth stings, but the sooner we own this the sooner we can join those kids.

        READ  The Jungle by Upton Sinclair

        Same Old Shit, Different Century

        It's difficult to be happy knowing so many suffer. We must unite.

        by War on Error on Wed Nov 02, 2011 at 09:23:49 AM PDT

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      •  I think this can be revisited with new evidence (1+ / 0-)
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        Facts about ALEC etc discovered (legally speaking) after that decision call into question the facts of the case. With the undue burden being the intent, and not incidental, that precedent may not apply.

        Why is there a Confederate Flag flying in Afghanistan?

        by chimpy on Wed Nov 02, 2011 at 10:22:27 AM PDT

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        •  I don't see how that's going to help. NT (1+ / 0-)
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          •  Revisit case to restrict precedent (0+ / 0-)

            Even though Supreme Court tries law, and not fact, the facts of the case are important. The precedent applies to future cases with facts in line with the decision. The facts of the case, as presented to the Court, include only the immediately observable effects of the voter ID laws, and neither the motivation behind the legislative process, nor the logically expected effects that guided that process. According to linked article,

            Justice Kennedy and the Chief Justice joined to promote the standard that states can enforce "evenhanded restrictions that protect the integrity and reliability of the electoral process itself."

            The backing of ALEC through campaign contributions, lobbying and model legislation shows a national pattern with partisan motives. The discussions regarding Arizona and Texas redistricting both show intent and effect. Analysis of the national voter ID trend shows clear effect and probable effect:

            Voting Rights Groups Charge TX ...

            The new law limits the acceptable forms of ID an eligible voter can present in order to vote by regular ballot to a Texas-issued driver's license, a state identification card, a license to carry a concealed handgun, a military ID card, or a US passport, all of which must be current or have expired within 60 days of being presented.  Current law allows the use of utility bills, bank statements, paychecks and any government document that includes name and address.  

            Black and Latino  voters are approximately twice as likely to lack the requisite state ID than white voters and will  experience a heavier burden in terms of costs than their white counterparts.  Only 9 percent of white Texans live below the federal poverty level compared to 22 percent of African Americans and 26 percent of Latinos.  Black and Latino voters in Texas earn 44 percent less than White voters.

            City kids who take the bus verus suburban kids who grow up driving to school? And, yes, handgun permits are good, but student ID's aren't. And effects of the voter ID process have had time to become clearer: they do not protect integrity after all, because they were never meant to.

            Why is there a Confederate Flag flying in Afghanistan?

            by chimpy on Wed Nov 02, 2011 at 11:44:46 AM PDT

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      •  I Rec'd And Tipped This Diary n/t (0+ / 0-)

        Brought To You By That Crazed Sociologist/Media Fanatic rebel ga Be The Change You Want To See In The World! Gandhi

        by rebel ga on Wed Nov 02, 2011 at 04:12:06 PM PDT

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