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  •  The wonderful episode of NOVA on PBS (2+ / 0-)
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    last night was a remarkable piece of science journalism, making an attempt to explain our radical emerging understanding of space to generations that have grown up thinking space is comprised largely of nothing.

    Then reality hit home: "NOVA is made possible in part by: David H. Koch." Top billing.

    "Public" can mean a lot of things.

    -5.38 -4.72 T. Atlas shrugged. Jesus wept.

    by trevzb on Thu Nov 03, 2011 at 10:51:43 AM PDT

    •  Yes it can. Not all of their work is nefarious (4+ / 0-)

      and Conservative...all of them spend their money in proportion to their goals.  Several including Koch put smaller amounts of their cash out to non-conservative efforts to attempt to keep people thinking of them as "non-partisan".  It allows them to advance their agenda by raising questions in the minds of many as to the validity of the attacks against them.

      "Inmates should be reformed - not recycled" http://piecp-violations.com/

      by Bob Sloan on Thu Nov 03, 2011 at 10:58:31 AM PDT

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      •  Have you ever seen anything about what their (2+ / 0-)
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        other two brothers know and have said about Charles and David? Talk about two potentially great sources of information.

        There can be no protection locally if we're content to ignore the fact that there are no controls globally.

        by oldpotsmuggler on Thu Nov 03, 2011 at 11:38:13 AM PDT

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        •  Bill especially. He has fought this agenda and (3+ / 0-)
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          his brothers for years.  Charles and David took real advantage of him and cut him out of the family business because he didn't see eye to eye with them on their politics and slimy business "acumen".  Here is more about Bill here: http://en.wikipedia.org/..._(businessman).

          Would love to interview him...and Reagan Weber, ALEC's "former" PR Director who was canned a couple of months back after we began pressuring she and ALEC.

          "Inmates should be reformed - not recycled" http://piecp-violations.com/

          by Bob Sloan on Thu Nov 03, 2011 at 12:01:50 PM PDT

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          •  Yes, he appears to be on a different path (4+ / 0-)

            Back to the NOVA issue. From what I see, and you probably already know this, they want to own the science programs to push their climate agenda by using greenwashing (a portmanteau of “green” and “whitewash”). They deceptively use green PR or green marketing in order to promote a misleading perception that a company’s policies or products are environmentally friendly. The term green sheen has similarly been used to describe organizations that attempt to show that they are adopting practices beneficial to the environment. I don't know if you have Greenpeace's 2011 report, but here it is:

            http://watchdogprogressive.com/...

            (I wish Greenpeace would use a different name than "watchdog" because Koch is behind almost all "watchdog" news sites. This link goes directly to a Greenpeace Report.)

    •  When I see that, I wonder which subjects the (0+ / 0-)

      Koch's have made off limits to the producers of NOVA, or if they have agreed to put up more climate change deniers as credible sources to bring "balance" to climate change programs.  What kind of subtle influence on subject matter do they weild?

      Koch money without some measure of control seems inconceivable to me.

      Republicans are like alligators. All mouth and no ears.

      by Ohiodem1 on Fri Nov 04, 2011 at 06:23:44 AM PDT

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