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  •  But both parties are the same right? (0+ / 0-)

    If you think both parties are the same, then there is no difference between Obama or any of the GOP candidates.

    •  Pretty wide generalization to make (0+ / 0-)

      I think both parties are corrupt, but not equally corrupt, so no I do not think they are the same. I am likely guilty of saying they are, but in general if I make that statement it's in relation to a specific issue that I believe Democrats have abjectly failed and show no difference from conservatives on. In short they are contextual. Because I am politically aware in these scenarios, and because I know the political motivations behind the failure which are almost always self serving and inexcusable, thereby I am often more disgusted with Democrats in these instances. The Republicans are out in front of their corruption. Democrats are often not.

      There are many clear, distinct differences between Obama and the GOP candidates. I do think Obama is right of center on many issues. I think he uses the social issues he is left of center on as hedges against his polices that are center right, or fully to the right. I also think Democrats use the massive rightward pendulum swing propagated by Republicans and conservative Democrats to mask their own servitude to special interest money, and the effect is that the pendulum swings further right. In the end, all of it is masked as conservatism, and allows members of our federal government to maintain a status quo that keeps them wealthy and powerful.

      I also understand that they are at least partially in a catch 22 whereby they need money to get elected/reelected, and our system lends itself to the outcome I've described above. It lends itself to corruption.

      I think there will be a time and place for a third party, but this isn't it. If enough people take the same sort of action, there's always the possibility that the Democrats can be swayed back leftward. I don't count on that though, because the bubble they live in is too cozy, their groupthink too pervasive, and without an end to or severe curtailing of private financing, citizens united etc, we're always going to be fighting the same battle.

      Slap happy is a platform.

      by averageyoungman on Thu Nov 03, 2011 at 04:54:40 AM PDT

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