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  •  For those semi-interested (3+ / 0-)
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    in what this apologist is saying, please recall the many news reports, TEPCO/NISA updates, and graphs demonstrating ongoing 'flash fission' events all over the place in Fukushima since the very beginning. Thus there has always been iodine, xenon, krypton and every other fission product in measurable amounts at the reservation. TEPCO admitted just day before yesterday that iodine has always been one of the four primary contaminates being released to the ocean.

    To say they can now differentiate the 'normal' fission product levels from this piddly amount of fission products from the very same 'spontaneous' fission events is poppycock. Purely and simply.

    •  Yawn (0+ / 0-)
      TEPCO admitted just day before yesterday that iodine has always been one of the four primary contaminates being released to the ocean.

      The fission product I-129 has a half-life of over 15 million years. Why are you surprised to find iodine?

      What you call "poppycock," more educated people call "science."

      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
      -- Albert Einstein

      by bryfry on Thu Nov 03, 2011 at 12:13:04 PM PDT

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      •  Semi-amazing. (2+ / 0-)
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        No, it's I-131. Along with the cesium sisters and everything else.

        •  Yes, I see what you mean (0+ / 0-)

          From your link:

          IRSN also found large quantities of iodine 131, though it does not pose any threat due its very low 8-day half-life. Any iodine still found will not be radioactive by this point.

          You were saying?

          Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
          -- Albert Einstein

          by bryfry on Thu Nov 03, 2011 at 12:40:42 PM PDT

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          •  She was saying (2+ / 0-)
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            that it showed there was fission in the last 8 days.

            Your point?

            The fission product I-129 has a half-life of over 15 million years. Why are you surprised to find iodine?

            Mere diversion. It's I-131.

            Corium's in the ground, motherfucker. Eat it up yum.

            "'club America salutes you' says the girl on the door/we accept all major lies, we love any kind of fraud"--The Cure, "Club America"

            by Wheever on Thu Nov 03, 2011 at 03:09:41 PM PDT

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            •  Oh really? (0+ / 0-)
              She was saying that it showed there was fission in the last 8 days.

              And she deduced this from an article that quotes a report of estimated releases "from March 21st to mid-July"?

              Apparently, you didn't read the article either.

              BTW, are you really so scientifically illiterate that you think that a half-life of eight days means that all of the material disappears after eight days?

              Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
              -- Albert Einstein

              by bryfry on Thu Nov 03, 2011 at 03:38:48 PM PDT

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              •  Corium is still in the ground (0+ / 0-)

                Just like you said it wouldn't be. So, y'know, clearly you know what you're talking about.

                "'club America salutes you' says the girl on the door/we accept all major lies, we love any kind of fraud"--The Cure, "Club America"

                by Wheever on Thu Nov 03, 2011 at 07:00:51 PM PDT

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                •  I have no freakin idea (1+ / 1-)
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                  what you're talking about.

                  I said what?  Please explain.

                  And while you're at it, perhaps you can share with us the information that you have used to you draw your conclusions about where the "corium" is.

                  At this point, I can only conclude that you're just making shit up.

                  Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
                  -- Albert Einstein

                  by bryfry on Thu Nov 03, 2011 at 07:58:39 PM PDT

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