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  •  Is this guy running pro per? (3+ / 0-)

    Because, even if we put the issue of the actual harassment aside -- a big if -- he's sure as hell not handling the campaign politics of it with any smarts.

    Is there nobody on his team with an inkling of how to deal with allegations like this?

    •  Be careful what you wish for... (13+ / 0-)

      ...the current understanding of "how to deal with allegations like this" appears to involve the shaming and sliming of the accuser and her credibility: the "nutty/slutty" treatment received by both Anita Hill and, it must be said, Monica Lewinsky.

      When Cain's campaign starts "handling" these allegations, it's not going to be via methods that would make any of us around here dislike him any less.

      I support torturous regimes! Also, I kick puppies.

      by eataTREE on Thu Nov 03, 2011 at 03:52:12 PM PDT

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      •  Oh, I'm not wishing for it. (6+ / 0-)

        This bastard created this and is eating it now and that's just fine with me.

        But part of what impressed me about 08 was the skill of Obama's campaign staff.  The fact that he'd surrounded himself with folks who knew how to do this was a comfort, especially sincehe was up against the "inexperienced" accusation.

        Cain, who has zero experience in politics, doesn't seem to have a staff who can advise him at all.  That's not gonna work.

        •  Not to mention that Obama didn't (5+ / 0-)

          do anything wrong.  In the case of Rezko he admitted it was a bonehead move to engage in a land deal with someone he knew was in legal trouble.  But there wasn't anything wrong with the land deal itself.

          In the case of Rev Wright, it was guilt by association and a media that took words out of context and played it over and over giving the false impression of what he said in the first place.

          But you are right, though it all, Obama handled it masterfully and he is where he is today because he knows how to deal with all this nonsense.

          In Cains case, he appears he did something wrong, but he tried to lie about it.  But typical when you tell a lie you have to keep lying to cover up the first lie and before you know it, you're neck deep in dodo and can't find your way out. And that's what going on with Cain now.  

          We all know he wasn't going to make it to the White House, but now he really has no chance in hell.

        •  Cain always talks up his advisors (1+ / 0-)
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          He often brags about how he gets advice from panels of world-renowned experts on every topic.  Always anonymous experts, of course.  His incompetence in dealing with this is astounding.

        •  What staff? (0+ / 0-)

          My understanding is that he doesn't HAVE a campaign staff, which is very odd. Just the Kochs and Crooks (Mr. smoking add WI crook being the front man) advising him and providing bushels of cash.

          The Kochs and Crooks are either astoundingly stupid or Cain isn't paying any attention to them.  It could be both, I suppose.

          "Evil is a lack of empathy, a total incapacity to feel with their fellow man." - Capt. Gilbert,Psychiatrist, at the end of Nuremberg trials.

          by 417els on Fri Nov 04, 2011 at 01:53:06 AM PDT

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      •  Thank you (13+ / 0-)

        for acknowledging that the nutty/slutty tactic was used on Monica Lewinsky and every other woman dragged into Clinton's sex scandals.

        When Dems reflexively defend Clinton, I have to point out that he was on trial for the sexual harassment of an employee, and he couldn't manage to keep his dick out of the mouth of a subordinate in the workplace.

        And for all the people who will start shrieking, "It was consensual!!!1!" let me ask you, what if you're the employee in the workplace who's not sucking the boss's dick? How friendly is your work environment? How fairly are assignments, opportunities, credit, and compensation distributed?

        Compared to Bush/Cheney's horrific misconduct, Clinton's seems trivial, but that is setting the bar pretty low. His behavior was pathologically irresponsible, and gave the Republicans a giant club to beat him and the rest of the country with for a period of years.

        And the woman-bashing I heard from so-called feminist Dems during that era was beyond craven.

        •  I do acknowledge it. (4+ / 0-)
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          All I can say in Clinton's defense was that his opponents were such craven opportunists, so clearly motivated by partisan politics, and their tactics so sleazy, that it was easy to take Clinton's side and deny or minimize his real transgressions.

          The treatment of Lewinsky by Clinton's staff (Carville being the worst offender) was shameful.

          I support torturous regimes! Also, I kick puppies.

          by eataTREE on Thu Nov 03, 2011 at 04:29:35 PM PDT

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        •  thank you. it needs to be said. nt (0+ / 0-)

          'We apologise for any inconvenience during essential global improvement works' - sign on the front steps of St. Paul's, OccupyLondon.

          by doesnotworkorplaywellwithothers on Thu Nov 03, 2011 at 04:31:04 PM PDT

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