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  •  the same base that allowed the GOP to take over... (3+ / 0-)
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    Congress because they didnt get a public option?  Now they are in a worse position because the wackos in congress wont approve anything.

    •  Right after Obama gave us shit end of HCR stick (12+ / 0-)

      while cutting special deals for Big Pharma and all the for profit providers who got the golden end of the stick.

      Has Obama learned from dumping on his base right before an election?

      We'll see.

      Gasoline made from the tar sands gives a Toyota Prius the same impact on climate as a Hummer using gasoline made from oil. ~ Al Gore

      by Lefty Coaster on Sun Nov 06, 2011 at 04:30:36 PM PST

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    •  Cut the crap now. Most voters are pro-environment (9+ / 0-)

      The green base will not vote Republican. In 2010 it was the young people and groups that take work & motivation to get to the polls that didn't show up.

      Gas prices in the midwest will go up if the XL pipeline is built. Texas refineries will sell diesel to Europe, the Caribbean and central America if the XL is built.

      Killing the XL is good politics in the U.S.

      look for my eSci diary series Thursday evening. "Forgive them; for they know not what they do."

      by FishOutofWater on Sun Nov 06, 2011 at 04:45:15 PM PST

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      •  he won't do it for political reasons, (2+ / 0-)
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        I've been in the climate / environment battle more or less full time for twenty years, and however passionately I and thousands of others have argued that it should be, climate change has never been a factor in an election, and won't be this time.  But Obama might do it for all the right reasons, the critical reasons, the line in the sand reasons. I hope so.  And  given that, I'd be immensely impressed - all the better on him if he does.

        wherin we share a community blog for common goals for humanity. http://www.worldforallpeople.org

        by worldforallpeopleorg on Sun Nov 06, 2011 at 05:34:33 PM PST

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      •  Plus the teabaggers were in full frenzy... (1+ / 0-)
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        whipped to a patriotic fervor by the Foxaganda network and lots of Koch brothers money.

        In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress. John Adams

        by blue armadillo on Sun Nov 06, 2011 at 06:49:13 PM PST

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    •  You are so full of already disproven lies. (8+ / 0-)

      Liberals voted in '10 the same they always do in midterms.  Democrats lost Independents and youth demographics.  The base turned out, as they always do.

    •  Don't EVER Place Blame Where it Belongs (1+ / 0-)
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      If a politician and his party betray the promises they made to the people who flocked to the polls in record numbers to support them, and some of those voters lose the motivation to vote for that politician and party again, it is NOT the fault of the voters.

      That's the problem with you cheer leaders. You don't understand that it's up to the politicians you have your love affair with to motivate the rest of us to vote for them. It's not our job to vote for them just because what lies behind door number 2 is even worse.

      The only ones that allowed the GOP to take over were Barack Obama and the Democrats. And there's a LONG list of reasons why, the public option being only one of many. Sadly.

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