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  •  while we're rearranging state lines (3+ / 0-)

    wouldn't it make sense to fold DC into the delmarva-less maryland? then you get DC voting rights and a cleaned-up map.

    •  DC isn't in DRA. (1+ / 0-)
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      20, Dude, Chairman DKE Gay Caucus! (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09) Tammy Baldwin and Elizabeth Warren for Senate!

      by ndrwmls10 on Mon Nov 07, 2011 at 10:42:42 AM PST

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        •  Dave's Redistricting App. (1+ / 0-)
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          The venue that was used to draw these maps.

          19, male, WI-03 (home, voting), WI-02 (college), -7.88, -4.26, With all the crap Scooter is doing, I should move, but that would be one less vote to end the FitzWalkerstanian police state by recalling Scott Walker!!!!

          by WisJohn on Mon Nov 07, 2011 at 10:57:39 AM PST

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          •  It would be wild to see DRA with no state lines (6+ / 0-)

            Just the voting districts and partisan data, similarly to how the British parliament boundaries cross their county's (which are really states) lines.

            What kind of extreme national gerrymander could result from either side?

            Imagine if the GOP, fresh off recapturing the trifecta in 2002, uberpacked the largely-Dem cities in the midwest and interior west. What is the limit of safe GOP seats in such a scenario?

            Or a Democratic Abgin-style baconmander of the entire west, using coastal California/Portland/Seattle and the western slope of Colorado, all while creatively packing segments of Utah, Idaho, Colorado Springs, and swamping GOP strongholds like Orange County and suburban Phoenix. Could a 98-2 Dem advantage be possible? The comedy of these meandering districts would be off the charts.

            "Hello, citizens of Rapid City, my name is Earl Blumenauer, and I am running to be your next representative..."

            •  Given their Toledo-to-Cleveland (2+ / 0-)
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              Lake Erie gerrymander, I predict the GOP would extend that gerrymander to the west to include Detroit and to the east to include Buffalo. They might pack South Bend and Chicago into the same state, or create a new state with Chicago, Milwaukee, and NW Indiana, perhaps with a tentacle down to grab St. Louis.

              21, male, RI-01 (voting) IL-01 (college), hopeless Swingnut

              by sapelcovits on Mon Nov 07, 2011 at 12:14:58 PM PST

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            •  i'd love to see a senate done by equal population (0+ / 0-)

              without regard to state lines. just 100 districts (or 50, with 2 senators each, for that matter). it would be a great way to represent regions, in a way that the utter randomness of state lines drawn centuries ago tends to muddy and confuse.

    •  I think that would make a lot of sense (0+ / 0-)

      The target district population for a Maryland divided eight ways sans Eastern Shore is larger than the population of the District of Columbia. Ideally I would be able to divide D.C. for redistricting purposes (probably along the Anacostia River), but DRA doesn't currently support that.

      Democrat, OR-01 native, Swingnut for life, and keeper of the DKE glossary.

      by SaoMagnifico on Mon Nov 07, 2011 at 01:03:38 PM PST

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    •  No, but retrocession would make sense (2+ / 0-)
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      There is little chance of DC becoming its own state. Hell -- what would you call it?

      The solution that makes the most sense -- though it's resisted by local politicians in the District and Maryland -- would be for the District to return to the state from whence it came -- Maryland. Of course, there would still be the tricky name thing -- there would still be a federal district, but what would you call the state portion? Washington, Maryland? There already is one.

      Still, the naming problem is small potatoes compared with adding a 51st State. %0 is a kind of perfect symmetry -- even if the GOP wasn't worried about 2 more Democratic Senators, I think a lot of people would wold hesitate to move off of a 50-state union.

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      by FischFry on Mon Nov 07, 2011 at 01:15:42 PM PST

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      •  There's no town called Washington, MD (0+ / 0-)

        There is a Washington County in MD, so they'd have to come up with a new county name for it.

        As to being a separate state, earlier proposals were for it to be "New Columbia".  Not sure what the official abbreviation would have been, with NC already taken.

        •  I expect... (0+ / 0-)

          It would be called Washington City, like Baltimore City.

          Democrat, OR-01 native, Swingnut for life, and keeper of the DKE glossary.

          by SaoMagnifico on Mon Nov 07, 2011 at 01:36:56 PM PST

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          •  Baltimore City? (0+ / 0-)

            You know that's not an actual name? People say Baltimore City to distinguish it from Baltimore County, especially when they're talking about schools or politics or such. But, there is no place designated "Baltimore City". It's officially the City of Baltimore, but there's a big megaloplis up north that is officially the CIty of New York. THe difference is that is known to locals (and everyone else) as New York City, while the one down south is just Baltimore.

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            by FischFry on Mon Nov 07, 2011 at 07:05:37 PM PST

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        •  Thanks for the correction (0+ / 0-)

          I was thinking of Washington, Virginia,

          I've never taken the name of New Columbia seriously

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          by FischFry on Mon Nov 07, 2011 at 06:57:51 PM PST

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      •  um, that's what i was saying (2+ / 0-)
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        if DC gets folded into maryland, DC gets voting rights. problem solved.

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