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  •  his postal service comment is wrong (4+ / 0-)

    I don't know why nobody calls this out.  USPS is so frequently held up as example of how government can't "compete".  It's wrong because government requires USPS do to things that the market would not provide otherwise.  Once upon a time it was considered valuable to make sure all of our country was linked by postal mail.  If we left it to the market some areas (rural, high crime, impoverished) would probably not receive service and/or service would come at a much higher cost.

    So when people say if they can't compete they shouldn't exist I always wonder if the consequences are thought through.  Someone might make an argument that universal postal service isn't required any more but usually that is not considered.  It's more of a theme that government is inherently bad so obviously anything government related must be bad.

    •  usps is NOT... (2+ / 0-)
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      judyms9, mithra

      ...a business---it is a gov't agency that is often told to behave more like a business, despite being fettered & beholden to federal statutes designed for an agency, NOT a business; it operates at the whim of a Congressional committee chaired by the psychotic and (literally) criminal Darryl Issa, a guy barely distiguishable from Joe Walsh

    •  Most of the problem (0+ / 0-)

      with the money at the USPS is that in 2006, Congress passed a law that says that the PO has to fund their retirees health benefits for the next 75 years, and that this fund must be fully funded in 10 years.
      According to the union, had the USPS not been forced to pay towards this health care fund, they would have turned a profit.

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      by skohayes on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 04:13:44 PM PST

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      •  I'm aware of that too (0+ / 0-)

        But I don't think it cuts to the heart of the USPS can't compete talking point.  USPS isn't the same as a market driven service.  The market would not deliver what we ask of USPS at the cost USPS delivers it.

        Markets are great and solve a lot of problems.  Delivering mail to every residence for the same low cost isn't one of them!

        If this isn't accepted and agreed upon, then the response to the pension funding issue is that a private enterprise wouldn't have to deal with evil public unions and would have more control over their retirement costs.  Or something like that.

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