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  •  maybe another one of the reasons (0+ / 0-)

    it is taught and openly discussed in history classes is due to the recent nature (1930s and 40s) of these horrific acts and the sheer magnitude of the numbers of people......in the millions, some say 7 million and others say over 10 million....

    Whereas the numbers related to Native American Indian Massacres ended in 1911 and amounted to less than 10,000...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/...

    and I am not trying to minimize in any way your pain or anger or hatred for us whities.....we are guilty as charged.....

    The goal is not to bring your adversaries to their knees but to their senses. -- Mahatma Gandhi http://www.bravenewfoundation.org/whoarethe1percent/

    by Mindmover on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 11:40:38 PM PST

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    •  Your facts are wrong and this is not the place (14+ / 0-)

      for you to post them, even if you were correct.

      The numbers of indigenous peoples killed off by the European invasions starting in 1492 are in the millions.  Land-clearing genocide across two continents.

      If this is truly your goal:

      and I am not trying to minimize in any way your pain or anger or hatred for us whities

      you'll stop your entire line of commentary on this particular subject in this diary.  If you have a great urge to espouse how we should feel, please write your own diary.

      And by the way "whities" ??? - trying to spark something else with that one?  

      What a Police State Looks Like: "On one side: soft human flesh, unprotected human skulls, cardboard signs, slogans they chant, armed with belief in 1st Amendment rights. On the other: helmets, body armor, guns, batons, chemical weapons." -- JanetRhodes

      by YucatanMan on Thu Nov 10, 2011 at 12:07:11 AM PST

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      •  Maybe you could correct the (0+ / 0-)

        wiki article and author....they are not my facts....

        http://en.wikipedia.org/...

        I apologize for the typo....whites, not whities....

        I believe when all comments are read, one side has been accusatory and the other trying to have a conversation....

        but then a conversation with a prejudiced white man.....

        espousing how you should feel....wow, that is quite the accusation...I really do not have an answer for that one....

        The goal is not to bring your adversaries to their knees but to their senses. -- Mahatma Gandhi http://www.bravenewfoundation.org/whoarethe1percent/

        by Mindmover on Thu Nov 10, 2011 at 12:54:18 AM PST

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        •  hahahaha, your link is so funny..... (1+ / 0-)
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          First line:

          This is an incomplete list, which may never be able to satisfy particular standards for completeness.

          What a Police State Looks Like: "On one side: soft human flesh, unprotected human skulls, cardboard signs, slogans they chant, armed with belief in 1st Amendment rights. On the other: helmets, body armor, guns, batons, chemical weapons." -- JanetRhodes

          by YucatanMan on Thu Nov 10, 2011 at 11:52:56 AM PST

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    •  Nonsense. More than 30,000 Indians... (29+ / 0-)

      ...of more than 100 tribes were killed in California alone between 1848 and 1870, many of them murdered to collect the state-passed bounty of 25 cents (later $5) for each Indian scalp, The law was not repealed until 1907.

      The surest way to predict the future is to invent it. — Stephen Post. [Me at Twitter.]

      by Meteor Blades on Thu Nov 10, 2011 at 01:17:38 AM PST

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    •  what? (2+ / 0-)
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      I'll be polite and simply suggest you read 1491. 10,000? Um, no. 1 out of every six people LIVING ON EARTH AT THE TIME likely died when the Europeans first came to these continents.

      "I don't want to live on this planet anymore" -Prof. Farnsworth "I prefer to be a total bitch about my science"--me

      by terrypinder on Thu Nov 10, 2011 at 10:38:30 AM PST

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    •  no, has nothing to do with that, time is not the (0+ / 0-)

      factor, guilt is. The Jew's holocaust is discussed openly in the US, because it wasn't the US, who engaged in the genocide, au contraire the US feels good about having saved many Jews with their victory in defeating the Nazi regime.

      But when it comes to racism in their own home country, the US, against their Native Americans citizens, it's another story. Being reminded of their own slow-motion genocidal racism isn't that good. Better not speak about it. and teach about it.

      And after all, "it's all history now"... right? Yeah ... no, it's not history and it's not over. And it's not right.

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