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  •  The point? (5+ / 0-)
    The point is, people power managed to trump corporate power at least in the short run; that's to be celebrated. And one of the advantages is, that frees us for a while to work on other parts of this problem. The pipeline was dangerous because it linked to the tarsands. There are other pipes they're trying to build out (I'm headed to Vancouver next week to try and help there). And there are other giant pools of carbon that need to be fought, at least until we manage to get a serious price on carbon that makes things like the tarsands impossible to mine.

    You have put the cart before the horse.

    The tar sands oil will flow to Asia. China will do whatever is necessary to get access to the oil it desperately needs.

    If you are really trying to be an environmentalist then simply advocate for the single best way of reducing oil use - higher prices. That's it! MUCH HIGHER PRICES. They will work. Consumption will go down and more oil will be left in the ground for longer (though not forever unless we get fusion working).

    The insanity of the situation is that Canada charges its people more for gasoline than the US. As a result Canadians drive fewer and smaller and more fuel efficient cars than Americans. While the US imports more than 60% of its oil, Canada is an exporter ... and yet Canada values its oil more than Americans. Go figure.

    The US continues to live in a dreamworld where it wants to have its cake and eat it too. It is oil that is draining the US Treasury - both to protect shipping lanes with the military (huge cost) and in the trade deficit. $1 billion a day leaves the US to pay for imported oil. It is half the trade deficit. A billion dollars given away overseas so that Americans can drive bigger gas guzzling cars and try to live a suburban lifestyle. Yes you can do it for a while, but ultimately reality will bite back!

    Again there is but one way to save the environment - MUCH HIGHER PRICES (gasoline at $ 8 a gallon to start with).  When will you advocate for this.

    "I can live with doubt and uncertainty and not knowing. I think it's much more interesting to live not knowing than to have answers which might be wrong". Feynman

    by taonow on Fri Nov 11, 2011 at 02:11:25 PM PST

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