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  •  Thought GOP was the party of "let it slide" (1+ / 0-)
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    mightymouse

    not Progressive Democrats.  

    Gasoline made from the tar sands gives a Toyota Prius the same impact on climate as a Hummer using gasoline made from oil. ~ Al Gore

    by Lefty Coaster on Sun Nov 13, 2011 at 12:11:07 PM PST

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    •  I am not "letting it slide". (2+ / 0-)
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      wonmug, Creosote

      I think I am at least as environmental as you are; so don't go all sanctimonious. There are things called facts that are independent of my opinion or yours. The facts - the facts, not me - say that it's over. We are done. The ship has sailed. The train has left the station. The Earth's population is way too large even now and there has been way too much CO2 released into the atmosphere - with much, much more to come - for any policy to get us back from the abyss. It's not going to do the slightest bit of good to change any policy now. It's like asking Captain Smith to change course after the Titanic hit the iceberg. We had a chance some years back but we blew it. That's not amenable to politics. It doesn't matter now whether you let it slide or put a solar panel over every inch of the USA. That's something you don't seem to understand. It's not that I will suddenly go out and buy a Humvee. It's that I see where things are going and recognize it. The fact that you can't says a lot more about you than it does me.

      •  some shit is baked in already (2+ / 0-)
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        Lefty Coaster, mrkvica

        but a lot isn't.

        it is disturbing to read a climate diary and see all the comments arguing (in a less than convincing manner) about population growth and others saying "well there is nothing we can do."

        Here I am! I'm up here! Where are you? - the Red-eyed Vireo

        by mightymouse on Sun Nov 13, 2011 at 05:20:50 PM PST

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