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  •  Ends don't justify crappy means (1+ / 0-)
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    evergreen2

    in fact if you use means you wouldn't want in the desired end state, those goals won't be reached.

    •  Working with punk-ass vandals who (2+ / 0-)
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      jpmassar, erush1345

      are certain to end popular support seems like crappy means if one is interested in changing society.

      The Black Block has succeeded at . . .  ?

      Answer:  nothing.

      "[R]ather high-minded, if not a bit self-referential"--The Washington Post.

      by Geekesque on Sun Nov 13, 2011 at 10:39:20 PM PST

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    •  You suck so hard at logic (1+ / 0-)
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      erush1345

      You say:
      Don't engage in activities you don't want to exist

      Which means that you want eternal destruction, lawlessness and the absence of justice.

      Because if no one cooperates with the authorities concerning crimes (and those St. Paul Principles don't limit themselves to petty vandalism - so don't even start with that shit) there will never be an semblance of peace. It's anarchy. And you can fuck off with that.

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