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  •  You call these wins? (0+ / 0-)

    Seriously? This is the biggest list of abstract, non-specific bullshit I've seen.

    The City will review its banking and investment practices to ensure that public funds are invested in responsible financial institutions that support our community.

    Really? You don't see about three holes with this? First off, it's a review. That means that nothing actually has to change. In fact, it doesn't even authorize a method for change. "Ensure" does not spell out a path for changing. Second, "responsible financial institutions" is the biggest ambiguous phrase possible. What the hell does "responsible" mean? A lack of definition will kill any meaningful action on this item. And "support our community?" Bank of America is financing Uwajimaya's development (for those that know the Seattle area, that's a big fuckign deal). It's hard to make the argumetn that Bank of America doesn't support our community. And this is only one of thousands of projects they are financing here. So, this item is utterly worthless. No change will come of it. You haven't gained a damn thing by this, except some worthless feel-good.

    The Council and the Mayor recognize and support the important responsibility the Seattle Police Department exercises in protecting for everyone our First Amendment rights to freedom of speech and assembly while, at the same time, appropriately enforcing City laws and regulations.

    Wow, you got a resolution passed that essentially says, the police will follow the law. Congratulations! Everything should be cleared up now! Oh wait, that's not the way the world works. If you have laws that aren't being followed, the solution isn't to pass a second law that says follow the first law. This is the goddamned dumbest approach I can think of.

    The obvious answers are wrong. That's why we aren't doing them already.

    by atheistben on Tue Nov 15, 2011 at 10:31:44 AM PST

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    •  Oh lord. Is it possible to be more negative than (1+ / 0-)
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      you?  There's got to be a piece of ice in every chunk of gold, eh?  Keep on expecting perfection and see where it gets you.  For god's sake, we have a city that has clearly and unequivocally stated its support for OWS rather than acting like Bloomberg et al, and all you can do is complain that it's not clear enough?  Please.  You'd really rather they NOT recognize there's a problem or that their police departments etc are NOT required to comply with the laws - like Bloomberg et al is doing??  

      Call this nothing because it's not precisely what you'd like.  I call it a hell of a great thing, thank you very much.

      "If you trust you are not critical; if you are critical you do not trust" by our own Dauphin

      by gustynpip on Tue Nov 15, 2011 at 10:46:49 AM PST

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      •  I'm saying OWS is ineffective at implementing (0+ / 0-)

        positive changes that will affect the lives of real people.

        If you want to hold this up as some great win for OWS, I'm going to point out that it isn't going to actually change anything. Income inequality isn't changing. Unemployment isn't declining. Wall Street isn't an inch closer to collapsing. None of that comes from this. The police thing is just procedure. It's ancillary stuff. It doesn't address what you're really protesting about: the wealth concentration among the top 1%.

        Yeah, I'm being negative. I'm being negative so people don't think they're changing the world when they're not.

        The obvious answers are wrong. That's why we aren't doing them already.

        by atheistben on Tue Nov 15, 2011 at 11:00:33 AM PST

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        •  Ah yes. Should have known you were one of those. (1+ / 0-)
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          Sorry I bothered responding.  

          "If you trust you are not critical; if you are critical you do not trust" by our own Dauphin

          by gustynpip on Tue Nov 15, 2011 at 12:46:12 PM PST

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          •  What, you have a "no responding to realists" rule? (0+ / 0-)

            Tell me this. In two years, how is the world going to look any different from OWS activities?

            If your answer is that the Seattle City Council passed a resolution to do some ambiguous review and that their police force should protect rights and follow and enforce laws, I'm going to mock you and this waste of time, and go back to work advocating for Obama's jobs legislation that will actually help real people.

            The obvious answers are wrong. That's why we aren't doing them already.

            by atheistben on Tue Nov 15, 2011 at 01:08:33 PM PST

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    •  Hey, time out, Buzzy McBuzz Kill! (0+ / 0-)

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