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  •  Where to being with your comment? (1+ / 0-)
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    northern spy

    First, it isn't ALL of the Republicans. Second, your claim that it is, and the simultaneous claim that Democrats are blameless, doesn't jive with the actual empirical data. We know that there are many Democrats (if not most of them) working, actively, with Republicans in an effort to impose austerity and other anti-99% measures.

    If she really wanted to counter the Republicans' efforts, she'd have an agenda consisting of some means to get out the message with specific names and specific acts of deliberate sabotage. Your protestation that "we all know it's all republicans" is neither relevant nor valid in this context. Quite aside from being empircally unsupportable, it's a broad abstraction you've made in a realm where specifics are required in order to get the point across.

    Your statement "we all know it's ALL of them" is like somebody saying "all politicians are corrupt." There might be some kernel of truth to it, but the implied problem--how to prevent, stop, or otherwise counter the corruption--has no solution without specific acts to point to and say, "See, we have this person or group doing this thing at this time; let's stop that."

    What you're doing is giving her, and all the other people on your team, a pass because she's on your team. It's that simple.

    •  I thought we were talking about... (3+ / 0-)
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      edwardssl, dewley notid, highacidity

      ...deliberately tanking the economy to ruin the president. I see no evidence that any of the Republicans aren't party to that. Look at their recent votes. And I see no evidence that the Democrats ("my team") are.

      But, hey, if you know of some Republicans that aren't and some Democrats that are, I invite you to name names.

      "Back off, man. I'm a scientist."
      -- Dr. Peter Venkman

      Yeah, yeah, I tweet

      by Eclectablog on Wed Nov 16, 2011 at 07:50:05 AM PST

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      •  You're obfuscating and deflecting again. (0+ / 0-)

        See if you can follow:

        1) Your diary is about a congresswoman who claimed to have heard directly from several Republican colleagues that they are deliberately trying to tank the economy in order to weaken President Obama

        2) Several commenters, including yours truly, have opined that because said Congresswoman refuses to name names (and, in my case, specific incidents), she's part of a larger problem (wider in scope, but not detached from, Republicans' antics regarding the economy), specifically and especially that her silence in practice makes her a complicit partner with Republicans' efforts

        3) Your response is first to obfuscate by broad generalization ("She doesn't need to name names because they all do it") and then, after having been shown why that is neither relevant nor sufficient to defend her compicity via silence, to claim that the original observations and statements (re: her silence) were never under discussion

        Make up your mind.

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