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  •  Thank you Jill and Everyone (8+ / 0-)

    I knew I would never be able to put away enough money for my kid to go to private school, but I live next to one of the best universities in the world.  Cal (UC Berkeley) was just down the street (so to speak) and I didn't need to save so much because if nothing else, I could afford Cal for my beautiful, smart, and talented daughter.  And then everything went to hell.  So here I am with very little saved, counting on a University of California education and in the past 4 years watching it get priced out of our reach.

    She is a senior in High School now and applications to the UC system are due December 1st, but now a year of college will cost 30K, not 10K like I expected and planned for.  I can't afford 30K.  I can't afford 20K.  10K would be pushing it, but with some good loans, it would be doable.

    What to do.  She is applying to more private schools and praying for scholarships.  

    Education must be accessible.  Pricing the public schools on par with the private schools is insane.

    •  would she consider a CSU or community college (2+ / 0-)
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      and then transfer? That might be a doable workaround, and if she were to ace her classes at SF State or CSU East Bay it would be another way in. It used to be the admissions very much gave consideration to transfers for year 3 forward. Don't know if that would fly with her, but it might be a way to ensure she gets a U.C. degree in the end.

      post hoc, ergo propter hoc

      by RvgAqs on Thu Nov 17, 2011 at 12:54:55 AM PST

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      •  I did this (1+ / 0-)
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        Went to a community college, they had a program that let me take a couple of classes at UC Berkeley while enrolled at the CC and then eventually transferred in.

      •  That's actually not that easy to do. (0+ / 0-)

        The transfer rate is high due to self-selection. Students have to pay very careful attention to the courses they select due to transfer admission requirements, and the lowest GPA accepted is 3.60. The transfer admission requirements basically mandate that a student has to enter community college with the understanding that their primary goal is to get out of it. A student isn't allowed that process of self-discovery where they might suddenly discover an interest in x,y, z. They have to put themselves on a track from the outset. And that's a little sad to me.

        Also, CSU East Bay's current expected costs per year are over $16,000 if the student lives with parents and around $24,000 if that student lives on their own. That's still not going to meet her budget, and I would expect that Berkeley has much better student aid.

        That fucking sucks, and I'm so sorry, Kamakhya. All I can say is that student aid at UCB has gone way up as tuition fees have risen. It isn't necessarily hopeless, but they're damn well making it harder, with more hoops to jump through. Seriously stress-inducing hoops.

        •  Yes, I did this (1+ / 0-)
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          And encountered exactly what you described.  Freshman year, chose a major and worked my ass off to maintain a spotless GPA.  Transferred into the Psych Dept at Cal, one of the most competitive, and a year later I wasn't that into it.

          I wish I'd had more freedom to explore my own talents and interests more, turns out I'm much more inclined towards crunching numbers and working through chemistry equations than the "soft" sciences.

          I also had the good fortune of attending Santa Monica College for my lower division years, a fantastic community college.  The Peralta system just doesn't compare.

        •  I know of what you speak (0+ / 0-)

          But here's the rub.  What you are talking about is called the IGETC.  It stands for Intersegmental General Education Transfer Curriculum.  

          My kid actually has almost completed the IGETC requirements. They really are unbelievable.  They are very specific and it takes a degree just to figure them all out, but my kid's high school did just that and has helped her map out how to complete the IGETC and get 2 AA degrees concurrently with her high school diploma.  

          Yet, the IGETC us limited.  It doesn't work everywhere.  She wants a science degree at UC Davis.  Davis doesn't accept IGETC for science majors.  It might help for some things, but she will have to retake the science courses.

          We are praying for student aid.  We should be able to get tuition, but 15K in other fees will be hard to come up with.  However, no matter what, we will find a way.  If I have to pay for the next 20 years myself, I will.  My kid will get a college education and she will have a shot a becoming a veterinarian.  Period.

      •  I just saw this (0+ / 0-)

        She is already taking Community College classes.  She will have 2AA degrees (if she can get her classes) next spring when she graduates.  She goes to an early college high school.  However, these classes will not allow her to skip two years because they were done in high school.  It's complicated and more than a little frustrating.

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